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VIDEO Mayor and Council Mar 31, 2025 at 07:00 PM Processed: Jul 07, 2025 at 08:58 AM

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Duration: 144 minutes

Speakers: 25

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Speaker 1

Council open forum of 03/31/2025.

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Speaker 1

This is the fifth Monday, which means it's open mic night.

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Speaker 1

I'm mayor Kurt Wilson. I'd like to introduce my colleagues and council members present,

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Speaker 1

council member Sarah Beeson,

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Speaker 1

council member Christine Hall,

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Speaker 1

council member Lee Hills and Pro Tem,

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council member William Mortland,

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Speaker 1

and council member David Johnson and council member Allen Sells are both not present,

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Speaker 1

on an excused,

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Speaker 1

absence from our meeting tonight.

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Speaker 1

I'll now turn our meeting over to our chief executive officer and city administrator, mister Randy Knighton. Mister Randy Knighton will explain how the meeting is run. Mister Knighton.

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Speaker 2

Thank you, Mayor Wilson, and good evening, everyone.

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Speaker 2

Good evening, and welcome to open forum.

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Speaker 2

If you would like to speak this evening, we do ask that you fill out a comment card, which can be found at the back of the room,

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Speaker 2

in order to ensure an accurate record of the meeting. We ask, of course, as we do in all meetings, that everyone observe the principles of mutual respect and display the appropriate demeanor during the course of the meeting this evening, which should be and is reflective of our great community.

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Speaker 2

The mayor, of course, is the presiding officer of the meeting and will ensure

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Speaker 2

the orderly exchange of comments this evening. As always, we encourage everyone in attendance and the viewing audience to, visit the city website for meetings, events, and departmental information and encourage everyone to review and participate in the various activities and offerings here in the city of Roswell, which you can find at roswell365.com.

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Speaker 2

There are a number of events, upcoming in the city of Roswell, which promote community,

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Speaker 2

physical activity, and leisure

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Speaker 2

as we all make Roswell the number one family community

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Speaker 2

in America.

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Speaker 1

Mayor Wilson. Thank you, mister Knight. And as always,

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Speaker 1

at this time, I have the great privilege of asking pastor Jason Cook, pastor of Fellowship Bible Church, to come to the front and lead us in an invocation and moment of silence.

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Speaker 3

Thank you, mayor Wilson, and thank you to the council.

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Speaker 3

Let's bow our heads in prayer.

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Speaker 3

Father in heaven, you are so kind to us and so gracious

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that you've given us another morning full of your mercy. You've given us another day that is full of your grace.

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Speaker 3

And even this evening, you've given us yet an opportunity

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to experience your hand of provision,

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protection,

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and even fun

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by and through the work of those before us. Would you superintend this meeting and would you be here in our midst

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so that these leaders before us and those of us here who are citizens of this great city

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might,

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experience the great joy of co laboring

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to see your kingdom shalom on display here.

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So, Lord, would you guide and govern our time this evening?

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We love you so much. It's in your name we pray. Amen. Amen.

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Speaker 4

Amen.

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Speaker 1

Thank thank you, pastor Jason Cook of the Fellowship Bible Church for joining us tonight.

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Speaker 1

At this time, I'd like to ask United State Marine Corps, Colonel James M Dunn,

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Speaker 1

James M Dunn to come forward and lead us in the pledge of allegiance. Colonel.

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Speaker 1

Pledge of allegiance to the

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Speaker 1

flag of The United States Of America

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Speaker 1

and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation under God,

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Speaker 1

indivisible

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Speaker 1

with liberty and justice for all.

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Speaker 1

Thank you, Colonel Dunn.

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Speaker 1

At that time, I'd like at this time, I'd like to ask you to please stay up there as I'll ask the council to come down for the first item under the mayor's report,

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Speaker 1

which is a reading of the proclamation for the esteemed veteran of Roswell award.

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Speaker 1

Proclamation,

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Speaker 1

office of the mayor, Colonel James m Dunn. James m Dunn,

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Speaker 1

esteemed veteran.

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Speaker 5

Whereas the city of Roswell

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proudly recognizes and honors the outstanding military service

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and lifelong dedication

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of colonel James m Dunn, United States Marine Corps, who served his country with honor and distinction

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from 1970

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until his retirement in 1999.

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Whereas colonel Dunn's exemplary military career spanned twenty nine years,

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including five years of active duty

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and twenty four years in the marine corps reserve,

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during which he served as an officer and aviator,

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piloting CH 46 helicopters on active duty

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and Ah dash one Cobra attack helicopters in the reserves,

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amassing more than 4,000

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flight hours in both rotary and fixed wing aircraft.

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Whereas during operation Desert Shield and Desert Storm,

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then lieutenant girl colonel Dunn

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served as the commanding officer of HMA seven seven three,

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an attack helicopter squander squadron

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based out of Dobbins Air Force Base in Marietta, Georgia.

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He led approximately 100 United States Marines

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and four naval service members,

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successfully completing all assigned missions

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and ensuring the safe return of every service mender member under his command.

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Squadron logged approximately eight hundred flight hours,

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including two hundred and seventy hours in active combat duty.

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Whereas for his leadership,

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valor, and service,

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Colonel Dunn was awarded the Bronze Star

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and carried out deployments and training operations

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in numerous locations around the world,

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including Okinawa,

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Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia,

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Norway,

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Denmark,

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The Philippines,

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Thailand,

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Japan,

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Australia,

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and across The United States.

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Whereas,

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colonel Dunn has consistently demonstrated his commitment

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to honor sing to honoring the legacy of all who have served,

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particularly

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Vietnam veterans,

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ensuring they receive the recognition and appreciation

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they so richly deserve.

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And whereas following his military retirement

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at the rank of full colonel,

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colonel Dunn continued to serve the community

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as a dedicated immigration attorney in Roswell, Georgia for over thirty years,

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helping individuals and families pursue

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the American dream.

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Speaker 1

Now, therefore, I, Curtin Wilson, mayor of the city of Roswell, Georgia,

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do hereby name Colonel James m Dunn,

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Speaker 1

an esteemed veteran of Roswell,

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Speaker 1

and call upon all our citizens to recognize his outstanding service to our country and to our community,

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Speaker 1

and that there's no higher calling than those who've served in the United States Armed Forces. Congratulations, sir. Thank you. Thank

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you.

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Speaker 6

Okay. Thank you. I would like to say a few words.

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Speaker 6

Hi. Mayor? Oh, sorry. Sorry. Thank you, mister mayor and city council and, miss Katrina Singletary who I who worked with me to help put this together.

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Speaker 6

And I'm I've accept this recognition, not for me personally,

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but on behalf of all service members,

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Speaker 6

past and present,

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who served our great country

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and,

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particularly with emphasis on the Vietnam veterans.

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Speaker 6

They gave more

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Speaker 6

than, than they got. And, I'm here really on their behalf. Thank you very much for

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this.

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Speaker 1

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1

Thank you very much.

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Speaker 1

This is the fifth Monday, which means it is open mic night. The reason that the overwhelming majority of you are here, thank you for being here and being with us during the presentation of Colonel Dunn's esteemed Roswell award.

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Speaker 1

We have three open mic nights this year. This is the first on the calendar of 2025.

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Speaker 1

We have received

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Speaker 1

a great deal of

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Speaker 1

commentary

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Speaker 1

and emails and comments and conversations

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Speaker 1

over the parking deck and the parking policy.

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Speaker 1

So if you will bear with me, there's gonna be a five minute presentation by vice president Sharon Izzo and a three minute presentation by, senior vice president Jeff Leatherman.

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Speaker 1

They'll now open up the meeting, and then I will open up the open mic meeting to all Roswell residents who are here. So thank you so much. So let me start off first with a five minute present presentation by vice president Sharon Izzo on the parking deck.

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Speaker 7

Thank you, mayor Wilson.

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Speaker 7

So excited to be here again with you tonight celebrating the great milestone of the giant step forward we took Wednesday night in our parking deck project.

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Speaker 7

As you know, the voters overwhelmingly,

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Speaker 7

voted for the parking deck in Downtown Roswell, and we have worked,

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Speaker 7

long and hard to identify the site and then to,

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Speaker 7

do some some preliminary engineering and architecture work,

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Speaker 7

to develop a a a design that, we then were able to go out into the marketplace with

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and go through a very painstaking

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Speaker 7

procurement process to make sure we identified the exact right team for our design build

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Speaker 7

of this parking deck, and that team is Winter Construction.

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Speaker 7

I wanna start by talking a little bit about the the design itself, the images that

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Speaker 1

uh-oh. Hold on.

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Speaker 7

Hope if I turn it on. Okay.

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Speaker 7

These images that we shared on Wednesday, I know there were a number of questions that you all received over the weekend. So I wanna start by saying

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Speaker 7

that the Green Street parking deck is a part of a broader Green Street activation plan to create an East West pedestrian

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Speaker 7

corridor

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Speaker 7

along Plum Tree Street that's going to to connect Canton to Green Street and Green Street to Southern Post,

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and to to create, an opportunity for parking that could,

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accommodate visitors that might be even coming into our Woodstock,

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Speaker 7

soccer soccer fields over the weekends and in the evenings for practices.

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Speaker 7

So,

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just to to talk about the Green Street activation plan a little bit, if I may,

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the Green Street plan is to take Green Street and

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basically take that from a two way,

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street to a one way street travel traveling south.

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Speaker 7

That will work well along with the corridor,

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Speaker 7

drive that'll go in on the north side of our parking deck to create better circulation in that part of town.

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Speaker 7

In addition to that, the intention is to take Plumtree Street right now, which is a one way street, and turn that into a pedestrian only street to provide that connection for

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visitors that are parking in our parking deck and looking to,

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get over onto Canton Street to visit our restaurants and our shops and to generally explore all that Roswell has to offer.

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Speaker 7

The design itself

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contemplated the original design of the Mason's Lodge. As you know, as a part of this process,

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Speaker 7

the Mason's Lodge, it was determined that the city council wanted to preserve and protect that property.

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Speaker 7

And in so doing, we needed to take a look at that architecture, which is Greek revival,

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Speaker 7

and how will our deck work next to that deck next to the lodge in addition to being adjacent to Southern Post and the rest of the surroundings.

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Speaker 7

And that's what you see here. You see the the brick facade. You see the the vertical,

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relief that's provided almost making it look like a grouping of buildings.

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That was some of the work that was done by the architect we worked with. He looked very closely at not just those buildings, but also the rest of our historic district to understand what the architecture was and what we could do

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with this deck.

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Speaker 7

As we talked about last week, the deck itself is a giant concrete structure. It's a bunch of concrete LEGO blocks that get fitted together.

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Speaker 7

So what we need to do is talk about what happens on the outside.

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Speaker 7

And our deck is a four sided deck. Oftentimes, in other cities, you might see a deck that looks one way from one perspective and another way from a from another perspective, almost like a backside and a front side. Our deck is is completely going to have an architectural treatment on all four sides.

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Speaker 7

The other thing I wanna point out as we're looking at this image is you can start to see some of the,

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Speaker 7

the fall that we have on this site. So on the Green Street side,

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the, land itself is higher. We move over to nine, we have about a 12 to 15 drop 15 foot drop across the site. So what that means is that part of the deck would actually be subterranean on that very first level.

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Speaker 7

As a female, and I imagine other people,

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Speaker 7

I'm not terribly comfortable

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Speaker 7

in a subterranean deck with very limited light. I feel vulnerable,

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Speaker 7

and that's something that our team looked very, very closely at. How are we going to create,

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an openness even in the subterranean level,

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Speaker 7

to create a feeling of safety and allow natural light to, penetrate that deck? And you'll see some very large openings particularly

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again, it's almost like a crown molding. It's that little bit extra that you do, And, again, it's almost like a crown molding. It's that little bit extra that you don't always see on a parking deck, but something that,

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the the group felt was very important for this particular parking deck.

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Speaker 7

You can also see that on this image,

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Speaker 7

and I probably should oriented you when we got started here.

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Speaker 7

This is actually looking at our parking deck from Southern Post, the southern piece of Southern Post looking across the street at where our deck will be. You can also see,

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the surface parking there on the south side, and that'll actually be the entrance to the,

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to that first level of the deck. You can also see there's a lot of, landscaping there. And so there's attention given to,

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Speaker 7

the beauty

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Speaker 7

surrounding the deck and paying attention to the property itself.

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Speaker 7

This image is more from,

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Speaker 7

the the,

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traffic light there at South Southern Post looking directly at the deck. So that gives you an idea of how deep the deck is going to be.

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Speaker 7

And then here, this image is as though we've just had breakfast at Fellowes and are walking back down to our car at the parking deck along Green Street. And you can see here that tower tower is actually the, not just the stairway, but also the elevator for the deck. And you can see that there's, there there's

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Speaker 7

a fair bit of light being,

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Speaker 7

given to that tower, which will make it feel open and less restrictive.

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Speaker 7

There's also,

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rather than making that just an opening, we're actually gonna be put putting glass in there, which I think will be lovely and also,

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allow that to feel, safer.

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Speaker 7

And again, you can see some of the beautiful plantings that are contemplated there.

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Speaker 7

The last image I have to share with you is actually of the Green Street plum Plumtree Street connection. So this will be the, the image that a visitor will have as they're returning to their to their parking deck after a visit perhaps over on Canton Street

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Speaker 7

looking back at the deck. And you can see on this side, the deck looks much shorter. And, again, that's because there is that subterranean level

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below,

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that level that you're looking at here. So you're actually looking at the middle level of the deck when you're looking at this image.

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Speaker 7

And of course, I'm I'm well I'm open to any, questions or thoughts, but I think probably now you'd like me to turn it over to Jeff so he can talk about parking policy. Yes, ma'am. Thank you so much, senior vice president Sharon Iso. Thank you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1

Senior vice president Jeff Leatherman on the

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Speaker 1

parking policy.

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Speaker 8

Thank you, mayor. And I just wanted to cover a couple of points from our last presentation. As miss Izzo has said,

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Speaker 8

community members can go back, last week when we presented both at committee and then also at our special called meeting where I spent quite a bit of time talking a little bit about our, economic development strategy and how not only parking, but this parking deck and future parking decks will impact and influence our economic development strategy over the course of time and especially in our downtown area. We're thinking about new projects that are coming on board, Hill Street being one, West Alley is right behind us, and Chambray Hotel, all on the horizon in our downtown area, plus a tremendous amount of work in our Midtown and East side of our community where parking and parking as a service to support our businesses will all be part of our economic development strategy

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Speaker 8

moving forward.

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Speaker 8

I wanted to make sure that we just cover for the community.

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Speaker 8

Real quick, seven bullet points, and then I'll touch on the budget of items that we have moved forward,

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Speaker 8

with guidance from this mayor and council regarding our policies that we released and started to talk about as part of our fiscal year twenty five budget. And what I really wanna communicate both to the community and,

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Speaker 8

to those that are watching

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Speaker 8

is we are slowing down the implementation of our fiscal year twenty five downtown parking plan. We'll be meeting with our community,

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Speaker 8

to get some feedback on additional ways that we can support our businesses in and around the downtown community.

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Speaker 8

We will continue to charge for parking at our existing locations, and that'll be the only place that we'll focus on charging for parking here in the foreseeable future until we bring some additional recommendations back to council regarding technology,

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Speaker 8

which I'll talk back on the next page. But Canton Street, Elizabeth Way, and East Alley, currently, we charge for parking at those locations. We will continue to charge for parking. We will be bringing some ordinances forward,

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Speaker 8

to help us support the enforcement of charging for parking. But, again, it'll be limited to those three locations.

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Speaker 8

City staff will also be doing some research and recommendations for technology so we can identify resident versus nonresident, and that will help inform future policies for this mayor and council.

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Speaker 8

We'll be recommending that technology at Old Mill Park. We're also tackling,

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Speaker 8

an opportunity at Old Mill Park for how we could potentially implement parking and parking related solutions

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Speaker 8

to help with the traffic that we have and that we experience coming up really probably in the next month or so and throughout the remainder of the summer down at Old Mill Park. We know that our community is impacted, the park is impacted, and we believe that there are some parking solutions as we continue to do our research that will help support both the operation of the park, but also the community and the surrounding neighborhoods of that park facility.

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Speaker 8

Again, we'll be updating some ordinances

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Speaker 8

just related to our Canton Street,

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Speaker 8

and Elizabeth Way in East Alley. We may also include, Old Mill Park as part of that as we continue to work through some of the solutions there. We'd like to transition East Alley into pedestrian friendly experience

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Speaker 8

and then also introduce some downtown ambassador type programs where we can help solicit feedback from our community and also help navigate people around the downtown area when we're under construction over the next thirteen months with our new parking deck.

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Speaker 8

As it relates to our budget, just one bullet point there that we did forecast a $2,200,000

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budget. We've revised all of those budget projections. We do have a million dollars,

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Speaker 8

budget opportunity, I will say, essentially,

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Speaker 8

uncommon for a budget as the size of ours as we forecast our fiscal year twenty five budget. We continue to refine our revenues, refine our expenses, and we'll do the same with the forecasted

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parking revenue.

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Speaker 8

So we're working with about essentially a million dollar deficit that we do have to tackle. We've already decreased our expenses. A lot of the expenses were associated with the expansion of downtown parking with technology, signage,

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Speaker 8

and staffing, which we have reduced from the budget already as we sit here today.

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Speaker 1

Those are the major points I wanted to cover as we set the stage for the conversation tonight. Thank you, mister mayor, for an opportunity. Thank you, senior vice president, Jeff Leatherman, and senior vice president, Sharon Eisel. Thank you for your time. Thank you, everyone, for allowing us to make a quick short presentation.

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Speaker 1

At this point, I will open it up to the floor for all RELREL's residents. I will call on you. I'll call on you before you come up, and I'm gonna ask a favor of you. Please announce your name and where you live,

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Speaker 1

and do me favor. If I ask it again, because I'm writing it down, so I write down the note. So just bear with me if I ask you again. So that's what my first question.

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Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 1

You're right there. Raise your hand in the beautiful blue dress in the second row. That's you.

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Speaker 1

Or blue blue top. Sorry. Forgive me.

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Speaker 9

Okay.

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Speaker 9

Good evening, mister mayor, council, and fellow Roswellians. I am doctor Melody McLeod. I am an original owner of my home

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Speaker 9

here in Roswell now for twenty nine and a half years.

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Speaker 9

First, I just wanna say that, the off the service that we had for, slain officer, Jeremy Labonte, was wonderful.

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Speaker 9

The community

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Speaker 9

and the city came out beautifully for him, and I just it was a beautiful service and supportive his him, his family,

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Speaker 9

his brothers and sisters in blue, and all of our first responders that fill the church.

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Speaker 9

Second quick thing, I would like to see if we could refund or reestablish the core program, which I heard has been discontinued. We loved it was a great experience. I think it would be great if we can get that back if it has been,

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Speaker 9

discontinued.

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Speaker 9

Thirdly, quickly,

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Speaker 9

about the parking,

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Speaker 9

I, as a 29

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resident of Roswell,

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Speaker 9

I'm in favor of us needing parking, but I really still don't feel

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Speaker 9

that we should have to pay for the Roswell and should have to pay for the parking. I would like to see that we have one parking decal

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Speaker 9

per homeowner residence, not three or four cars per residence, but one. We can make it happen and let people who are visiting Roswell pay for the parking that we've paid for this with our taxes.

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Speaker 9

Minimally, I'd like to suggest that senior citizens be allowed parking, but I think all Roswellians should be allowed to park for free.

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Speaker 9

Last other thing before my final comment is, I still don't know why we have to pay $20 to watch the people shred our documents at the recycling center

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Speaker 9

when they're there to do their job and we're just gonna stand there and watch.

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Speaker 9

Now my main reason for being here is as I was here on 10/30/2023

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Speaker 9

regarding

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Speaker 9

incessant barking and growling from the neighbor's dogs, which is still ongoing, which has now been over two years at my corridor.

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Speaker 9

Our noise nuisance violations

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Speaker 9

fall under code Roswell code eight point one point thirteen f and eight point eight point three.

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Speaker 9

I suggest that our code enforcement department is in great need of better investigative practices and procedures to assess violations that are not static,

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Speaker 9

such as

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Speaker 9

overgrown grass.

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Speaker 9

And I don't think that officers should inform the violators that they're coming because that way it negates,

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Speaker 9

them being able to observe.

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Speaker 9

In fact, years ago, couple years, officer Johnson,

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Speaker 9

he actually came by the property

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Speaker 9

in his marked vehicle

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Speaker 9

and just as the dogs began to bark, what did he do? He cut off his body cam. I have the the the clip right here.

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Speaker 9

And I just would like to say I would like to something to be done about it. And just so you can hear a little bit of what's been happening on my corridor, just because it wasn't observed,

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Speaker 9

that's the thing. You guys have to observe it. But it doesn't mean it's not happening. And so I just wanna share with you and I my apologies to those of you behind me, but I I want you guys to see what's happening, not only to me. And when you hear this, I'm in my kitchen

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Speaker 9

and this is what I'm hearing inside my house. And I have a pretty large house, but this is what I'm hearing and and I want you to hear just a little taste of it.

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Speaker 10

And if they're outside with the dogs, you would think they would tell them to shut up.

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Speaker 9

Remember, I'm inside my house recording this.

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Speaker 9

Now I'm gonna stop because I wanna allow I'm gonna forfeit some of my time because I really would like a response

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Speaker 9

from some of you because I'm I still have time. That I had

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Speaker 9

I had been at my kitchen counter,

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Speaker 9

seasoning turkey wings for four and a half minutes. And Melody, just stay focused on what you're doing. Just keep and I couldn't concentrate. So I washed my hands, dried my hands, found my phone, went and started recording. That recording last eight and a half minutes.

27:39
Speaker 1

So I've got, like, thirteen, fourteen minutes of that. So I'd like to no. I wanna give you what can we what can we done about this? Thanks thanks, doctor McLeod. I really Any comments, sir? Appreciate no, ma'am. No comments from you. This your night to make the comments, and I really appreciate you coming. As you know, we have we actively are happy to engage with you on any and all matters of the city. I really appreciate you being here tonight. Thank you. I would like to hear from someone about this, though. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 1

Janet.

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Speaker 11

Janet Russell, Roswell, Georgia. Fifty two years this month, I moved here in pollen heaven. Congratulations. The good news is we don't have to shovel pollen.

28:28
Speaker 11

I didn't really come prepared with notes. I came to listen, but I have a couple of comments about the presentation. One, I'm going to go on the record as saying

28:36
Speaker 11

the parking garage is in the wrong location.

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Speaker 11

It's terrible.

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Speaker 11

The design isn't that nice. It's not reflective of our historic district. It looks like a gulag.

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Speaker 11

Secondly,

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Speaker 11

I'd like you to consider

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Speaker 11

solarizing the roof of the parking garage.

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Speaker 11

There is a company in Atlanta that specializes in solarizing

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Speaker 11

parking garages.

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Speaker 11

Let's get in the twenty first century folks,

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Speaker 11

you could provide enough electricity for all of Canton Street from a parking garage.

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Speaker 11

What a concept.

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Speaker 11

Thirdly,

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Speaker 11

pedestrianizing

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Speaker 11

the East Alley project. If you go back and look at the minutes of about, twelve years ago,

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Speaker 11

when the city and the DDA

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Speaker 11

decided to spend $1,970,000

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Speaker 11

to pave the East Alley

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Speaker 11

to make it a pedestrian area.

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Speaker 11

It was not a public street.

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Speaker 11

We had to take possession of it first,

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Speaker 11

then we put in pavers,

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Speaker 11

so the Sysco food trucks could back in.

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Speaker 11

It will never be pedestrianized

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Speaker 11

because it is a service alley for the restaurants that face Canton Street, and delivery trucks cannot park on Canton Street to deliver because it's one way in each direction.

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Speaker 11

And no one's going to take a dolly through an entire restaurant to the back where the kitchen is.

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Speaker 11

Secondly, they screwed up by making it a one way street entry only from Canton Street, exit out to Norcross Street, and trucks cannot make a 90 degree turn right there when they enter.

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Speaker 11

So they go on to Norcross Street and either park in the left turn lane

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Speaker 11

and then unload their stuff and bring it in, or they back in down from Norcross Street to Canton's to the East Alley.

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Speaker 11

Rotting garbage, broken benches, you can say what you want that it hasn't been activated, but that's because there's nothing back there,

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Speaker 11

except the one restaurant that is actually the back door of the Elizabeth Way entrance. When they tried to make a patio, the city shut them down with that that increase of capacity.

30:40
Speaker 11

So I think you need to look at the whole picture. Pedestrianization,

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Speaker 11

I've been fighting for that since I moved here.

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Speaker 11

I remember going to city council when it was at the visitor center where the visitor center used to be and saying,

30:51
Speaker 11

wouldn't this be cool? Roswell has 5,000 people. I think it would be nice to make it like a city ordinance or part of our planning that every single shopping center, school,

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Speaker 11

subdivision,

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Speaker 11

park, everything gets connected by a multimodal path, and I was laughed at.

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Speaker 11

Imagine if fifty years ago city of Roswell had done that and taken my advice,

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Speaker 11

we would be a model for how a city grows.

31:15
Speaker 11

Right now, I still am waiting for sidewalks, and I was told twenty five years ago I wasn't patient enough.

31:21
Speaker 11

Well, twenty five more years, and I'm I guess I'm not gonna be patient enough either.

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Speaker 11

As far as parking for pedestrian for residents, I've been asking for that down at the river. I've given up going to the river on the weekends. The parking lots are full of bars Bartow,

31:37
Speaker 11

Cherokee, lots of Cobb. The Willie 0 Park is really a nicely kept park for the residents of Cobb County.

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Speaker 11

You can never there's 12 parking spaces, you can never get a parking space.

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Speaker 11

I was told that we couldn't charge for parking down at the river because that was one of the conditions when we took over the land from Fulton County.

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Speaker 11

I thought we leased it for like a dollar a year and then we did all the improvements.

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Speaker 11

We're not charge asking you to charge for parking. We're asking you to put up some signs that say, Roswell resident parking only and give us a sticker.

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Speaker 11

For Pete's sake,

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Speaker 11

I can't ever use the parks on the weekends. Forget it. It's impossible.

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Speaker 11

But everybody else can. I see whole mother groups come from Cobb County and park in 30 cars so they can have Mother's Day on Tuesday.

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Speaker 11

Why? Because they charge for parking in Cobb County.

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Speaker 11

Now I

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Speaker 11

don't think that charging for parking for residents is gonna deters because most residents don't really go to Canton Street.

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Speaker 11

They go other places as we know where all the secret places are that are better. Thank you.

32:43
Speaker 1

Thank you, Janet.

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Speaker 1

Mayor Wood,

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Speaker 5

welcome. My name

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Speaker 12

is Jerry Wood. I reside

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Speaker 12

at 10850

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Speaker 12

Stroop Road. I came tonight because I had a question.

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Speaker 12

But I recognize that it is the policy of this mayor and council

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Speaker 12

not to answer questions

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Speaker 12

on fifth Monday.

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Speaker 12

So I'll ask you a couple of rhetorical questions.

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Speaker 12

Our first question is,

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Speaker 12

why is this mayor and council,

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Speaker 12

choose not to answer questions? Now I can understand if the answer goes beyond five minutes

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Speaker 12

or the and the time goes beyond five minutes, it would be inappropriate.

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Speaker 12

But I still don't understand

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Speaker 12

when a citizen ask a question,

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Speaker 12

why cannot they get an answer?

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Speaker 12

I'm sure if they have

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Speaker 12

I'm sure your staff

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Speaker 12

or you may have an answer. And if you don't, you could say you don't have an answer and get to us later.

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Speaker 12

But I think it would be welcome

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Speaker 12

if you would answer our questions.

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Speaker 12

And again, I came tonight because I had a question.

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Speaker 12

I read last week that the city had approved $14,000,000

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Speaker 12

to build a parking deck,

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Speaker 12

and it showed

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Speaker 12

a rendering.

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Speaker 12

So I went

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Speaker 12

to the city site to say, what's the site plan? Where is this building going? I couldn't tell where it was going from the rendering.

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Speaker 12

I have searched the city's

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Speaker 12

online information and I still cannot find

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Speaker 12

where this building is exactly going.

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Speaker 12

I asked Marley Press, who was the city clerk for twenty years, to see if she could find out where this building was going.

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Speaker 12

He couldn't.

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Speaker 12

I called a couple of council members and did not get a a a

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Speaker 12

a site plan.

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Speaker 12

So my question

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Speaker 12

is exactly where is this building going? Because

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Speaker 12

it does not show

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Speaker 12

in the minutes.

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Speaker 12

It does not show in the rendering.

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Speaker 12

And I've got a question where the billing goes.

34:53
Speaker 1

Mayor Wood, I can interrupt you. If you don't mind, I'll show you where it is right now. Sharon, would you show the mayor would you show the mayor where the building's going?

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Speaker 1

That the rendering that you have?

35:04
Speaker 1

The one that you

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Speaker 1

The site plan. The site plan.

35:08
Speaker 12

Thank you, sir.

35:09
Speaker 1

Of course.

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Speaker 1

This is a this is rudimentary,

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Speaker 1

crude, but it shows you exactly where the location of the parking garage is on this on the fiscal site.

35:31
Speaker 12

Thank you, sir. I appreciate that. I I I searched and searched the city's

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Speaker 12

approval of this $14,000,000

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Speaker 12

and couldn't find it.

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Speaker 12

So thank you for that. I appreciate that. But I would encourage you

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Speaker 12

to entertain questions, if they're simple,

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Speaker 12

from the floor. It would be welcome

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Speaker 12

and would be helpful.

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Speaker 12

And next time there is

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Speaker 12

a approval of a project,

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Speaker 12

it would be nice to have the site plan

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Speaker 12

with the approval so citizens like me can understand

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Speaker 12

a little more than what what is going on. Thank you for your time. Thank you, Mayor Wood, as always.

36:11
Speaker 1

Appreciate your comments, Mayor Wood. Thank you so much. And obviously, the

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Speaker 1

council and,

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Speaker 1

is free to answer questions as well as I am at any time.

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Speaker 1

And the staff as well as often we

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Speaker 1

and it's been,

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Speaker 1

it's not a policy not to answer questions.

36:28
Speaker 1

It's usually it's our policy to allow the residents to speak and to address the issues they wanna address.

36:34
Speaker 1

We have an active policy of meeting with any and any resident, any business, anytime they wanna meet and address any issue they wanna address.

36:43
Speaker 1

There are people that come to these meetings sometimes that we've met with several times, and they'll still ask the same questions. And honestly, it's I don't wanna give a public answer

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Speaker 1

that makes the resident of the business look like in not a great position. So sometimes the best thing is just to be quiet

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Speaker 1

because I'm not interested in making people not look good.

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Speaker 1

And it means what I can tell you is that we actively behind the scenes will meet

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Speaker 1

with anybody

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Speaker 1

about any issue that they have in the city at any time.

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Speaker 1

Staff will, counsel will, and myself will, and that is an open invitation.

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Speaker 1

It is the opposite of hiding. I

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Speaker 1

really ask

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Speaker 1

and think and believe that this is your time, and it's your time to say the things that you wanna say. It's not my time. It's not the council's time. It's not the staff's time.

37:31
Speaker 1

I gave a little presentation shortly just I hope it was eight minutes,

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Speaker 1

just to give a little pretext of the many things that we'd heard over the weekend from a bunch of people saying, hey. We got some questions about the presentation.

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Speaker 1

And we figured that some of those would come up tonight. And I'm sure that they still will, and I'm sure it doesn't answer all the questions. And I thank you, Mayor Wood, for asking about the specific site selection.

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Speaker 1

There's a lot more coming that you're gonna get, obviously,

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Speaker 1

on the parking deck. So I've got enough. Who would like to speak next?

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Speaker 1

Gail? Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 1

Welcome, Gail.

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Speaker 10

My name is Gail Bohannon McCoy. I live at 736 Bush Street, Roswell,

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Speaker 10

Georgia.

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Speaker 10

I have two

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Speaker 10

issues that I have tonight,

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Speaker 10

and I will start with Pleasant Hill Cemetery,

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Speaker 10

which is a historical cemetery in Roswell.

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Speaker 10

And it has been established,

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Speaker 10

I'll say,

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Speaker 10

late eighteen hundreds.

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Speaker 10

And I was at a

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Speaker 10

historical society meeting the other week, and I wanna clarify,

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Speaker 10

that it was stated that the Pleasant Hill that the Pleasant Hill Cemetery was neglected.

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Speaker 10

And I wanna thank all of those that have been,

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Speaker 10

going cleaning up, sending donations

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Speaker 10

personally,

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Speaker 10

to help upkeep the cemetery.

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Speaker 10

But my main issue is that,

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Speaker 10

we were told at one time that,

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Speaker 10

the city was going to be cleaning up the cemetery,

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Speaker 10

and that was the memorandum of understanding.

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Speaker 10

And so

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Speaker 10

then it was changed,

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Speaker 10

and they are upkeeping

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Speaker 10

the other historical cemeteries in Roswell, but not Pleasant Hills Cemetery.

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Speaker 10

And I just wanted to understand

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Speaker 10

why some and not all hysterical cemeteries.

39:34
Speaker 1

I don't know if you will be able to answer that tonight, but, the Let me give you a try. Let me give you a try. I know you got more things, but let's let's see if you can answer on that. Okay. And by the way, you probably notice

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Speaker 1

talk about,

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Speaker 1

commitment to service. Nobody knows this, but do you know council member Will

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Speaker 1

I got no

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Speaker 1

time. She's coming back. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll we'll have the time. Thank you though for catching it.

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Speaker 1

Council member Will Mortland sorry, Gail, if I dug in your time. We'll get it back. Council member Will Mortland

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Speaker 1

actually

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Speaker 1

cuts the grass

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Speaker 1

himself along with his son at the Pleasant Hill Church. Now, Jeff,

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Speaker 1

you might have some insight into this issue because I don't,

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Speaker 1

and I don't remember the history on it. Can you address anything in terms of historical nature of what the city's done in the past?

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Speaker 1

Has it done in the past? Can you kind of address that real quick?

40:29
Speaker 1

No. Come on. It's good to see.

40:32
Speaker 8

With regards to the Pleasant Hill Cemetery,

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Speaker 8

miss Bohannon is correct. We do, maintain two cemeteries here in the community, and our historical society as identified on their website and then part of a lot of their volunteer and inventory,

40:45
Speaker 8

the Pleasant Hill Cemetery as well. It has largely been maintained by volunteers as was indicated, council member Morland being one of them, and I think there's some in the audience who are also volunteers.

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Speaker 8

The city has not, in recent history, to my knowledge, taken on any active role of maintenance

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Speaker 8

at that cemetery.

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Speaker 8

We did talk about it in the budget process,

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Speaker 8

but we haven't to date, taken on any active, maintenance of that site. Can I ask you a question, Jeff? So historically,

41:10
Speaker 1

the city, for whatever reason, did not include Pleasant Hill,

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Speaker 1

cemetery in its,

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Speaker 8

inventory of cemeteries that it maintains? That we maintained or funded through maintenance. So in

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Speaker 8

probably three years ago, we or two years ago, we switched over from a contract maintenance service at two of the cemeteries

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Speaker 8

to in house. But at that time, Pleasant Hill was not part of that contract. And what two cemeteries does the city actually maintain that are not city

41:37
Speaker 8

cemeteries? We have Founders Cemetery, which is off of Sloane Street,

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Speaker 1

in in around the old the the Mill Village area, and then we have, the Roswell Historic Cemetery, which is here on Highway 9 in Woodstock. Those are the two locations. Certainly. Those two and the city so the the taxpayer does actually fund the maintenance of those. Yes. But it does but the city has never done Pleasant Hill. That's my knowledge. So, Gail, if I'm hearing you correct, you're banking, hey. We would like for you to start

42:03
Speaker 1

of working you know, spending some money on the upkeep of the Pleasant Hill Cemetery. Is that right?

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Speaker 10

The city. Yes. Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1

Alright.

42:16
Speaker 1

Well, besides council mayor, Martha and Cutting Grass, I'll go to work on that. Well, not only does Morthland,

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Speaker 10

Groveway actually contributes money,

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Speaker 10

for the last few years, and we've already done a lot of maintenance on the cemetery.

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Speaker 10

And, other people have donated

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Speaker 10

for the upkeep of that cemetery to the Raul

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Speaker 10

Historical

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Speaker 10

Society.

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Speaker 10

So,

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Speaker 10

I'm not gonna get into that.

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Speaker 10

But thank you, councilor Morflin, Charles Grogan, and all of Growaway

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Speaker 10

members that have been going and others

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Speaker 10

in helping keep the cemetery alive and looking beautiful.

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Speaker 1

And we'll go to work on your request

42:53
Speaker 1

Yes. On trying to on trying to make that part of the inventory, the other three the other two and make it a third that the city,

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Speaker 10

does maintenance on. Yes. That'll make me happy.

43:07
Speaker 1

Don't don't give us credit till we get it done.

43:10
Speaker 10

But we gonna hold you to it. And, Letterman, you could've stayed on up here because my other issue is Doc's Cafe. Yes, ma'am. That started off, like, in 2020,

43:20
Speaker 10

and it was been moved around and is now on Oxbow kinda hidden behind. And I know it's kinda shabby now, so I don't know if you'll be able to move it or not. But,

43:31
Speaker 10

from some community members, we would like for it to see in the black community,

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Speaker 10

as a historical site and be deemed as an historical site for the black community. There's not a whole lot of black history that is in Roswell

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Speaker 10

that people can identify. When people come to Roswell,

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Speaker 10

most of the time, all they see is white. Thank you for the excellent roots program that,

43:55
Speaker 10

you know, goes on every year, but there's other things to see. And we would like to have Doc's Cafe put back in place.

44:02
Speaker 1

So you know,

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Speaker 1

let's get our time.

44:10
Speaker 1

You know, we're working on Doc's Cafe. And so wide open to I'd like to have a very vibrant conversation. I think,

44:18
Speaker 1

senior vice president Jeff Leatherman has an excellent idea because my I would like to make Doc's Cafe relevant. I'd like to make it active. I'd like the people to know about it. I'd like people to visit

44:28
Speaker 1

it. We've got an idea about that, but what we would like to meet with, everybody in the community to to about that idea. As you know,

44:35
Speaker 1

it's not in good physical shape. Right. My concern is it being forgotten about. And so I wanna make it activated and have it be part of the history, not just today, but history in the future. Okay. And tie that into other Roswell history so that it gets more people congregated to do it and time tied into our economic development plan. So I'd love to meet

44:55
Speaker 1

with any and all people that wanna talk about Doxkelevate, because I think Jeff

44:59
Speaker 1

we're gonna give Jeff credit. I don't know which one of them are. I think they have a great idea.

45:04
Speaker 1

And I wanna talk about that. Alright. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.

45:09
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am.

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Speaker 1

Mary Robichaud. Yes, ma'am.

45:21
Speaker 1

Welcome, Mary. And I'm sorry. I I wanna give you the right title. It is representative

45:26
Speaker 1

Robichaud, so I apologize.

45:28
Speaker 1

Welcome.

45:29
Speaker 15

No. I dropped that title now. Supposedly, it's honorable, which is silly. Honorable. My name is Mary Robichaud. I live at 2900

45:36
Speaker 15

Rox Roxburgh Drive.

45:38
Speaker 15

Been a resident of Roswell thirty three years.

45:41
Speaker 15

I am here about Pleasant Hill Cemetery and I applaud,

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Speaker 15

stepping forward. For those of you who have never visited it,

45:50
Speaker 15

it is a beautiful setting. My husband and I have gone there. It's peaceful. It's quiet. The trees are gorgeous.

45:57
Speaker 15

Thank you for

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Speaker 15

cutting the grass. It is actually not in deplorable condition.

46:04
Speaker 15

What's amazing is when

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Speaker 15

the cemetery is documented

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Speaker 15

as being formed in 1855,

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Speaker 15

one year after the formation of Roswell, Georgia.

46:16
Speaker 15

We don't know how long people had been buried there, unfortunately.

46:21
Speaker 15

It was where our enslaved people were buried

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Speaker 15

at that time. So when you think about Founders Cemetery,

46:28
Speaker 15

these are some of our founders also.

46:31
Speaker 15

When we my husband and I walk around the gravesites,

46:38
Speaker 15

My husband and I walked around the gravesites

46:41
Speaker 15

to see headstones

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Speaker 15

of people who were born into enslavement

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Speaker 15

and then died

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Speaker 15

a free person.

46:51
Speaker 15

They have a beautiful little, patio,

46:53
Speaker 15

as you know, with some benches that have been donated

46:56
Speaker 15

that we sat there as gorgeous.

46:59
Speaker 15

Unfortunately, when we were there,

47:01
Speaker 15

the city doesn't even provide trash cans for the cemetery unlike in the other two historical cemeteries, so I would hope that's part of the plan too. It's got a beautiful archway

47:12
Speaker 15

into it.

47:14
Speaker 15

It's actually, I'm assuming, not only do you cut the grass, but I'm assuming MIMS,

47:18
Speaker 15

which is the facility close by, cuts the rest of the grass. So it's a really nice place, but there's not even a markers out on the street

47:27
Speaker 15

from,

47:28
Speaker 15

I think it's Grimes Road pointing you to the cemetery.

47:32
Speaker 15

I've been looking into too working with Gail at Grove Way. We're investigating

47:37
Speaker 15

how we can,

47:38
Speaker 15

I'm sure a lot of people do know, there's a historic black cemetery

47:43
Speaker 15

trail

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Speaker 15

in Georgia.

47:45
Speaker 15

We have one of the oldest ones in the state of Georgia

47:51
Speaker 15

right here in Roswell,

47:52
Speaker 15

and I think again that becomes that tourist

47:56
Speaker 15

part of our tourist destination for various people who want to see that, walk through that,

48:01
Speaker 15

get that feeling of history.

48:03
Speaker 15

It reminds me when my husband and I were in Ireland and you walk among those gravesites,

48:08
Speaker 15

you just can imagine what people live through.

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Speaker 15

And I would applaud and hope that that does move forward.

48:14
Speaker 15

Thank you. Thank you.

48:18
Speaker 1

Thank you.

48:21
Speaker 1

Thank you, honorable Mary Robichaud.

48:23
Speaker 1

Thank you.

48:25
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. In the purple. Yes, ma'am. Welcome.

48:31
Speaker 16

How are you? Welcome. Thank you. Mister mayor, would it be okay if my assistant passed out, some papers to share with you? Of course. Okay. Great. Thanks.

48:43
Speaker 16

Hi. I'm doctor Cynthia Seabacher. I am a dual licensed

48:47
Speaker 16

practitioner in the state of Georgia. I've been here ten years for chiropractic and twenty six years for being a licensed massage therapist.

48:55
Speaker 16

I'm the owner of the Academy of Clinical and Integrated Massage, a massage school dedicated to training future health care professionals.

49:04
Speaker 16

I believe my business license has been miscoded, and I would like to challenge such denial due to unfair competition or favoritism,

49:12
Speaker 16

violation of free market principles, and improper use of zoning

49:16
Speaker 16

laws.

49:17
Speaker 16

As a trade school, the NAICS

49:19
Speaker 16

category is six one one five one nine, most specifically massage therapist instruction

49:27
Speaker 16

as a massage parlor.

49:29
Speaker 16

The NAICS

49:30
Speaker 16

category is 812199.

49:33
Speaker 16

The school is most definitely not a massage parlor nor a massage establishment.

49:38
Speaker 16

Gwinnett College has a Roswell campus specifically for massage therapy school students in the city of Roswell.

49:45
Speaker 16

My school is modeled after Gwinnett College and several other massage schools in the state of Georgia.

49:50
Speaker 16

The city attorney initially denied a business license due to students working on people saying that it was against,

49:58
Speaker 16

your,

50:00
Speaker 16

your laws now.

50:02
Speaker 16

So I've also provided

50:04
Speaker 16

all the Georgia rules from the massage therapy board

50:08
Speaker 16

that's in your packet.

50:10
Speaker 16

Rule three four five dash eight dash o one,

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Speaker 16

requirements for a board recognized massage therapy education program

50:18
Speaker 16

states

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Speaker 16

supervised

50:20
Speaker 16

hands on instruction,

50:21
Speaker 16

where supervised means the supervisor is physically on-site, qualified, and immediately available.

50:28
Speaker 16

Rule three four five dash six dash zero two, the scope of practice of massage therapy students,

50:35
Speaker 16

states any student pursuing a certification as a massage therapist in an educational program

50:40
Speaker 16

may engage in the practice of services or activities of massage or massage therapy

50:45
Speaker 16

when such person is, a, actively enrolled in a massage therapy program,

50:50
Speaker 16

b, designated by title indication indicating student status and may not represent themselves as a massage therapist or a massage practitioner,

50:59
Speaker 16

and c, fulfilling

51:01
Speaker 16

uncompensated

51:02
Speaker 16

work experiences

51:03
Speaker 16

required for the attainment of certification.

51:06
Speaker 16

This is all for in order to sit for licensing in the state of Georgia.

51:10
Speaker 16

Uncompensated

51:11
Speaker 16

means any person in student status may not intentionally or knowingly agree to accept any compensation

51:18
Speaker 16

directly or indirectly

51:20
Speaker 16

in cash or in kind in the form of payments, gifts, or tips.

51:25
Speaker 16

The primary responsibility for the services provided for clients by the designated student rests with the licensed massage therapist, supervisor, or other authorized

51:34
Speaker 16

instruction.

51:36
Speaker 16

Documents of all service for clients and treatment plans must be reviewed and approved by the LMT supervisor.

51:42
Speaker 16

And finally, Georgia code 43Dash

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Speaker 16

24 a dash 19

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Speaker 16

also specifies that a student is

51:49
Speaker 16

designated by title indicating status and is fulfilling uncompensated

51:53
Speaker 16

work experiences.

51:56
Speaker 16

I'm here because I have written several emails, and I've only had that one response denying that we could be a massage

52:03
Speaker 16

establishment

52:04
Speaker 16

and saying saying they wanted us to be listed as a massage establishment

52:08
Speaker 16

instead of a trade school.

52:10
Speaker 16

I have not been able to have anybody,

52:13
Speaker 16

call me back or email me back after providing all of this information.

52:18
Speaker 1

Can I doctor Seabacher? Please. Yes. Jamie, in the back,

52:22
Speaker 1

would you need a favor? I'm gonna set up a meeting with you and me next week. I wanna jump all over this. Perfect. Seems like a very reasonable request.

52:29
Speaker 1

There might be a couple of little legal hurdles we gotta figure out.

52:33
Speaker 1

I'm sorry about this. Sorry we've caused you a problem. We'll get to the bottom of it, get it addressed. You'll come see me next week if you have time, if that's the case we do. Make the time. Thank you so much. Miss Jamie will come grab you in a minute. Okay. Yes. Thank you, doctor Seabach. Thank you.

52:55
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. Just raise your hand. Yes. Also in purple.

53:01
Speaker 1

It's a great color. A great liturgical color.

53:06
Speaker 17

Hi, mayor. My name is Donna Melcher, and I live at 720

53:11
Speaker 17

Creekview Lane,

53:12
Speaker 17

just about five minutes that way.

53:15
Speaker 17

And I'm hoping today that we can have an update on the mold situation in the Roswell housing authority. I was at a council meeting

53:24
Speaker 17

several months ago, and I know that there was some action items taken.

53:28
Speaker 17

And to my understanding,

53:30
Speaker 17

that problem is has not been abated. So I'd be curious about that, please.

53:36
Speaker 1

Miss Archer, hold on a second. Anybody up to speed on the on this?

53:41
Speaker 1

Jeff?

53:46
Speaker 1

Miss Archer, I am not up to speed on that issue tonight. I apologize.

53:50
Speaker 1

I can tell you it has been addressed in many different ways, but I cannot tell you that I can address it with any confidence tonight to give you an answer

53:57
Speaker 17

of what progress has been made on it. Thank you. And results are key. So I've got my email address there, and I'd be happy to receive an update. With me a second. Let me finish my note. Okay.

54:22
Speaker 1

You wanna address

54:24
Speaker 18

that? Shelter, excuse me, Lee Hills. And I go to pretty much every single one of the housing authority meetings, and the mold that was that was talked about last year, October, November,

54:35
Speaker 18

was addressed and identified as mildew. There may be other, but that was abated. And,

54:41
Speaker 18

Gainesville Housing Authority chairperson,

54:43
Speaker 18

Beth Brown had personally had her team investigate that. Now for a couple of reasons this year, the board has not met. One was, officer Lamonte's

54:53
Speaker 18

service, and so all all meetings were canceled that month.

54:57
Speaker 18

And the one that that was March, where I know we're at the tail end right now, was canceled as well. So I haven't been at one to find out or hear,

55:04
Speaker 18

about that. So there may be more, but I wanna tell you if you had heard

55:08
Speaker 18

about it in October and November, those

55:10
Speaker 18

were that issue. I can't remember if there were more than one had been abated, and it was more of a wipe down. But that's all I know. So there may be more to that. We can follow-up on that. And we'll follow-up with you and we'll follow-up with the community. We'll send out

55:24
Speaker 1

a status of what actually is going on. Okay. Thank you very much. Thanks, miss Archer. Thank you.

55:30
Speaker 1

Thank you so much.

55:32
Speaker 1

And

55:33
Speaker 1

would you make sure I get her email, so I don't get

55:38
Speaker 1

that? Okay.

55:39
Speaker 1

Who else? Yes, ma'am. Welcome,

55:42
Speaker 1

Daryl.

55:50
Speaker 19

Good evening. I'm Darryl O'Hare. I live at Arbor Creek Subdivision.

55:55
Speaker 19

Just have a few things I just want to bring up since it's a catchall.

55:59
Speaker 19

One, I wanted to say,

56:01
Speaker 19

thank you for bringing the farmers market back to City Hall.

56:05
Speaker 19

Whoever was responsible

56:07
Speaker 19

because,

56:09
Speaker 19

thank you so much.

56:12
Speaker 19

I have enjoyed going to all the various locations. However, I just really enjoyed doing it here. It got me started on my own journey of,

56:20
Speaker 19

buying local and and fresh, and I even worked an entire season at,

56:26
Speaker 19

one of the farmers that comes here at a different location.

56:28
Speaker 19

It was really hard work, so all the people come, they really put a lot of work in to put up their things. So I'm excited to have that back here. I'm also happy to see that you do have a parking garage in, place, however it's going to look, and that can be up to anybody. But

56:44
Speaker 19

I'm very happy to see that there has been

56:46
Speaker 19

a contract signed for that and that will be,

56:50
Speaker 19

proposed for being done, I think, within a year.

56:54
Speaker 19

I do hope

56:56
Speaker 19

that I think I've stated it before that parking we have already footed the bill for the parking garage.

57:02
Speaker 19

We'd like to see that the parking is not,

57:05
Speaker 19

a paid parking space,

57:08
Speaker 19

it being across from Southern Post,

57:10
Speaker 19

which is paid. I have issues with that one, but I'll do that another time.

57:15
Speaker 19

But

57:16
Speaker 19

I hope that we can really come to a reasonable plan that lets the Roswell residents who've already paid enormous amount of money for a parking garage that we'll get a real benefit out of it by not feeling like, oh, we're gonna have to pay even more.

57:31
Speaker 19

But I'm very happy that we're we're moving forward on that, and that's that's a big step.

57:38
Speaker 19

Let's see.

57:39
Speaker 19

I know that the historic cemeteries has been brought up, but I just wanted to reiterate my own support

57:44
Speaker 19

that Pleasant Hill Cemetery

57:47
Speaker 19

is not an addition to our historic cemeteries.

57:51
Speaker 19

If anything,

57:52
Speaker 19

it should really take some precedence right now. Our history,

57:57
Speaker 19

I think we sometimes just get things wrong.

58:00
Speaker 19

And I really wanna make sure that we get

58:03
Speaker 19

that cemetery

58:04
Speaker 19

under our own,

58:06
Speaker 19

care

58:07
Speaker 19

and attention

58:08
Speaker 19

in our budget,

58:10
Speaker 19

so that we are putting our,

58:13
Speaker 19

actions behind our words and really putting it as

58:16
Speaker 19

a forward thinking

58:18
Speaker 19

while also looking back.

58:20
Speaker 19

We need to work together, and I think that is something that we could easily do. If there was a memorandum of understanding, I would like to see that memorandum of understanding to have it cared for in

58:32
Speaker 19

perpetuity.

58:33
Speaker 19

Is that the right word? Yes, ma'am. Perpetuity. In other words, a memorandum of understanding that has no end in regard to Pleasant Hill Cemetery. So I would add that.

58:42
Speaker 19

And then Doc's Cafe, I mean,

58:46
Speaker 19

I would love to see that

58:49
Speaker 19

before anything else, to be honest.

58:53
Speaker 19

If we made the move, we intended to do something with it and haven't come up with the funds for it, we need to find it. We found things for other

59:01
Speaker 19

historical structures.

59:02
Speaker 19

This one probably means more to me in my heart than any of the others. This is personally for me, but, I know that this community deserves,

59:12
Speaker 19

the attention and

59:14
Speaker 19

respect

59:16
Speaker 19

of having that cafe preserved

59:18
Speaker 19

and given,

59:19
Speaker 19

its due and also to celebrate the vibrancy in this,

59:25
Speaker 19

and the success

59:26
Speaker 19

of our community.

59:30
Speaker 19

And then let's see if there's anything else.

59:33
Speaker 19

I

59:34
Speaker 19

thought there was something else, but

59:36
Speaker 19

oh, I wouldn't

59:38
Speaker 19

my last thing.

59:40
Speaker 19

I take a little issue where there's a million dollar deficit coming up.

59:45
Speaker 19

I don't think that's a deficit opportunity. I think it's a deficit.

59:49
Speaker 19

So I think we just

59:51
Speaker 19

refer to it as a deficit

59:53
Speaker 19

and

01:00:00
Speaker 19

I'm referring it to is it's a deficit. It's let's just look at what it says in the budget

01:00:06
Speaker 19

and let's hope we come up with opportunities

01:00:08
Speaker 19

to hire people

01:00:10
Speaker 19

that are coming out of college,

01:00:12
Speaker 19

who come up with great ideas, who are looking for jobs especially now,

01:00:17
Speaker 19

and how we can maybe manage that in the future going forward. So that's just one idea of mine. But I'm really excited about the contract, and I am also excited about the farmers market. You'll see me there. Thanks.

01:00:30
Speaker 19

And

01:00:31
Speaker 19

don't forget to go to the biking event.

01:00:34
Speaker 1

Bike Roswell. Right. Thanks so much. Thank you, Daryl. Thank you so much.

01:00:39
Speaker 1

Jeff, quick question. Two things.

01:00:42
Speaker 1

Dutch Cafe, do we encumber that money?

01:00:45
Speaker 1

We encumber the money for to put to to put activate

01:00:49
Speaker 1

the what we were hoping to do with Dutch Cafe. Did we not, or do we or am I wrong on that? So the money that we had encumbered was from,

01:00:57
Speaker 8

probably two budget years ago. It's roughly about and I'll look over my shoulder with Steven. I wanna say about $75,000

01:01:03
Speaker 8

for kind of the initial

01:01:06
Speaker 8

assessment of how we manage Doc's Cafe, but not the full build out or restoration of Doc's Cafe. So that money's not encumbered today? What's what's the number? It's about 75?

01:01:16
Speaker 8

65? Okay. Yeah. That's $65,000.

01:01:19
Speaker 1

That's correct. And what's the number to with the ideal of the Grand Leatherman, Northland vision that we wanna present? Yeah. Depending on how we activate the space,

01:01:29
Speaker 8

it can range from really anywhere from probably a million to a million and a half and even upwards of 2.

01:01:35
Speaker 1

But we really wanna make sure that That's good. I just wanna stop there. So million, million and a half. So say you're there. Where's Bill Godshall? Bill, come on up here with Jeff. Jeff don't go anywhere.

01:01:46
Speaker 1

So what I want you to know and, you know, again, I'll use this word trust. We are

01:01:53
Speaker 1

Bill's gonna do a presentation on April 14 to to demonstrate to you the financial health of the city.

01:01:59
Speaker 1

Bill, I want you to as a CFO who came in from the private sector, a lot of government experience, talk a little bit about budget for a second, because Jeff's very transparent when he says like, calls it a budget experience, budget deficit. But when you have a $200,000,000

01:02:12
Speaker 1

$100,000,000

01:02:13
Speaker 1

budget, there are a lot of things moving. Just for example, like we're looking at the possibility of trying to find a way to make Doctor. Cafe happen. That may happen at '25. You can say where that's money is going to come from. Well, Bill,

01:02:25
Speaker 1

talk a little bit about budgeting and the dynamic process of budgeting because it's not a static process.

01:02:31
Speaker 4

No, sir. The budget is not a static process. The, the first thing I would point to is

01:02:36
Speaker 4

simply the the health of the balance sheet of the city and our ability to generate cash flow from that balance sheet,

01:02:42
Speaker 4

as well as our AAA credit rating.

01:02:44
Speaker 4

Also,

01:02:46
Speaker 4

as each month progresses,

01:02:47
Speaker 4

we have an insight into whether we're performing better or worse in certain budget categories.

01:02:52
Speaker 4

We've looked at the shortfall or the deficit as

01:02:56
Speaker 4

one citizen called

01:02:58
Speaker 4

it. We do think on a $100,000,000

01:03:00
Speaker 4

general fund budget

01:03:02
Speaker 4

that we should be able to find a million dollars to compensate for that. As far as something like a capital project to move the cafe,

01:03:09
Speaker 1

again, that should be a a manageable problem, manageable situation. Etcetera etcetera. We do it all the time. There's a lot of things that come up. There are a lot of things that we move money based upon priorities, based upon the desires and wishes of the people of Roswell. Roswell. Bill, thank you, sir. I look forward to your presentation

01:03:25
Speaker 1

on April

01:03:27
Speaker 1

to the city

01:03:28
Speaker 1

about basically the the financial stewardship and health of the city's finances. Thank you very much. Thank you, Daryl. I appreciate that, and I appreciate all those great comments. Thank you. So,

01:03:39
Speaker 1

who's next?

01:03:42
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. In the middle with the yellow card there,

01:03:45
Speaker 1

who doesn't have purple on.

01:03:53
Speaker 1

Welcome.

01:03:56
Speaker 1

Thanks.

01:04:01
Speaker 20

My name is Courtney wore Morris

01:04:03
Speaker 20

Rosier.

01:04:05
Speaker 20

My address is 540 Hembree Road.

01:04:08
Speaker 20

I have three questions and a comment.

01:04:11
Speaker 20

Can the city's budget information page be updated with the 2025

01:04:15
Speaker 20

final budget document?

01:04:17
Speaker 20

The proposed version is still posted with a note that the approved version will be added later

01:04:23
Speaker 1

earlier date. Do I answer the first question?

01:04:26
Speaker 1

Sure. Yep. Stop your time. If you Yeah. First

01:04:29
Speaker 1

First question,

01:04:30
Speaker 1

Bill, will that be in the April 14 presentation?

01:04:34
Speaker 1

You're gonna do that. Is that part of the April 14 presentation, the question that Courtney just asked?

01:04:43
Speaker 20

Yes. The proposed budget's there.

01:04:46
Speaker 1

Okay. There will be? Yes. Okay. So yes, ma'am. April 14.

01:04:50
Speaker 20

Okay. It'll be on the budget information page? Will it be on the budget information page?

01:04:56
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. Okay.

01:04:57
Speaker 20

Great.

01:04:58
Speaker 20

Thank you.

01:04:59
Speaker 20

The budget information page says that the budget process involves the public with several public meetings and work sessions.

01:05:06
Speaker 20

When are those work sessions and public meetings for 2026?

01:05:11
Speaker 20

And will those and can those meetings,

01:05:14
Speaker 1

and work sessions be posted to the budget information page? I let me answer that. Let's stop our time again.

01:05:22
Speaker 1

So, Courtney,

01:05:23
Speaker 1

there those dates are not on the table yet for the 2026 budget because, you know, we moved the fiscal year to match the calendar year, which means January 1.

01:05:32
Speaker 1

So my guess is that Don Stevens,

01:05:34
Speaker 1

Bill Godshall, David Davidson,

01:05:37
Speaker 1

underneath Randy's leadership, will set up meetings with the senior staff,

01:05:40
Speaker 1

with Leatherman and Izzo and the rest of the team

01:05:44
Speaker 1

probably for and I'm assuming here, will it be posted? Yes. Will the public be invited? Yes. And I'm gonna give you some rough dates because these dates are just off the top of my head. Probably starting in August. Okay. Probably would be my guess. Yeah. Because I think for the twenty twenty five year, it looked like it was just the readings and the,

01:06:02
Speaker 1

voting. That's right. 2024, there were not 2023, we had public workshops. 2024,

01:06:07
Speaker 1

we did not have public workshops. Okay. So I'll tell you, 2023, I got it done. 2022, we got it done partially. 2023, we got it fully baked in terms of done with the public. '24, we did not.

01:06:18
Speaker 1

Alright. '25. And to your question, in '26,

01:06:22
Speaker 1

it'll be public, it'll be open

01:06:24
Speaker 1

and maybe start in July. So the earlier you can get it, because they're going to be pushing, Don's already working on the budget for 'twenty six.

01:06:32
Speaker 1

So yes, ma'am, there'll be open workshops on those and those dates will be posted and will be advertised so that people can come to those. If they could it would just be great to see them kind of all on that budget information page, so it's all kind of consolidated

01:06:45
Speaker 20

and easy to reference. That would be perfect.

01:06:48
Speaker 20

I appreciate that.

01:06:50
Speaker 20

My third question

01:06:51
Speaker 20

is,

01:06:52
Speaker 20

will the city staff present at council meetings, and it sounds like they will,

01:06:56
Speaker 20

updates on 2025

01:06:58
Speaker 20

revenues and expenditures,

01:07:00
Speaker 20

and can those dates please also be added to the budget information page?

01:07:05
Speaker 20

So kinda thinking like,

01:07:07
Speaker 20

at church and with my own company,

01:07:10
Speaker 20

we have quarterly town halls,

01:07:13
Speaker 20

there's conferences at church,

01:07:14
Speaker 20

and there's budget presentations. So wondering if the same thing

01:07:18
Speaker 20

happens Can I can I do you one better? Calendar and Can I do you one better? Have them to the page.

01:07:23
Speaker 1

So so, Courtney, what my request has been, that's why Don Stevens is here, so I Bill Gottschill is here

01:07:31
Speaker 1

is

01:07:32
Speaker 1

so when we look back sorry, I'll give a little commentary. And Bill's going to address this on this April 14 meeting.

01:07:38
Speaker 1

From my perspective, look, the city's had a pretty healthy financial history, but there's a lot of pieces to that equation.

01:07:49
Speaker 1

Historically low cost of money over the last twenty years. It was a missed opportunity from the standpoint. A lot of lost, a lot we we fell back on infrastructure costs, etcetera, etcetera.

01:07:59
Speaker 1

So part of that was when we got into this and started looking at finance was very hard to peek into the financial structure historically.

01:08:06
Speaker 1

So one of the things that Bill and Don have got me into is to say, I said, look, from a perspective, I need a monthly reporting process, like a real transparent monthly reporting process. And I say, I need that. The rest of us need that. So what's coming?

01:08:20
Speaker 1

And Don and Bill, when is that coming? Because it's soon. What we're going to come is is where every month and every quarter, there'll be every month, there'll be reporting to the senior staff.

01:08:29
Speaker 1

So that by the way, if you're a director of transportation, you have clarity of where your numbers are. That's not been the past. Like it's kind of been a big mumbo jumbo, you know, year thing.

01:08:39
Speaker 1

So one of the things is to give the operators clarity into the numbers. The second is to give the residents clarity to the numbers. So the short answer is this, yes. Not only you're going to get quarterly, you're going to get monthly. You're going to get monthly financial reporting

01:08:51
Speaker 1

on the health of the city, p and l, g and l balance the whole deal so that you can be able to say, oh, now I know with clarity where we are, not fill in the blank numbers, not, you know, from a twelve month perspective.

01:09:04
Speaker 1

Governments do that a lot.

01:09:06
Speaker 1

Governments people realize if you're in the finance world and you get into the government world, you know, what in the world are they doing? A lot of times, it's fill in the blank on a twelve month process,

01:09:13
Speaker 1

not real reporting on a monthly basis. That's why Bill's here. Bill is here fixing that right now, like, actually fixing the undercurrent the undergirdle

01:09:22
Speaker 1

of the financial structure of the city from a reporting and information standpoint so that operators, that is the people who run the city daily, can actually know the states the status of, am I doing good or am I not going doing doing

01:09:35
Speaker 1

good from a financial perspective.

01:09:36
Speaker 1

That's coming. So if I didn't mean I didn't mean to shortcut you, but I wanted to I think we're gonna give you more than what you're answering. Great. We're gonna give you monthly financial reporting. I'd love to hear I heard you use the word transparency, and I love that. Thank you. Courtney.

01:09:51
Speaker 20

Alrighty.

01:09:52
Speaker 20

For my comment,

01:09:54
Speaker 20

I have a comment regarding the parking. Yes, ma'am. I want to say that I support parking at all the city facilities,

01:10:01
Speaker 20

which include, but are not limited to, city hall, cultural arts center,

01:10:06
Speaker 20

all historic homes, parks, recreation centers

01:10:09
Speaker 20

to remain free parking.

01:10:11
Speaker 20

I think any paid parking,

01:10:14
Speaker 20

for the parking deck plans, any of those plans,

01:10:18
Speaker 20

should

01:10:19
Speaker 20

include free parking hours

01:10:22
Speaker 20

if we are going to be moving to a pay for parking system.

01:10:26
Speaker 20

I also think

01:10:28
Speaker 20

that,

01:10:30
Speaker 20

there should be exemptions for residents until the bond is paid.

01:10:34
Speaker 20

I also believe and I ask that any revenues,

01:10:39
Speaker 20

that are collected through pay parking would be used and earmarked exclusively

01:10:45
Speaker 20

for

01:10:46
Speaker 20

the operation,

01:10:47
Speaker 20

maintenance, and repair of the parking deck, and any of those, pay parking areas.

01:10:55
Speaker 20

I also believe that, current methods for,

01:11:00
Speaker 20

funding today's parking

01:11:02
Speaker 20

as far as maintenance and repair, that those should just,

01:11:05
Speaker 20

should remain in place so that those parking spaces

01:11:09
Speaker 20

remain free and

01:11:10
Speaker 20

just continue on.

01:11:11
Speaker 20

Would you say that the just repeat for me because I didn't write down the ones that you said that are free that should remain free. Would you repeat? So sure. So off the top of my head, thinking where I park today when I come to festivals and, come to visit the museums and things like that.

01:11:27
Speaker 20

So it would be city hall when I come, like, for the meetings. And

01:11:32
Speaker 20

unfortunately, my daughter had a driving,

01:11:34
Speaker 20

driver's ticket, a speeding ticket so we had to come for that during the week.

01:11:38
Speaker 20

But everyone was very nice, let me say that.

01:11:41
Speaker 20

It was actually for

01:11:43
Speaker 20

a situation, a bad situation. It ended up not being

01:11:47
Speaker 20

so heart awful. Everyone was very pleasant and helpful during that process in the municipal court proceedings for her parking ticket, but I digress.

01:11:56
Speaker 20

Let's see. So we talked about city hall,

01:11:59
Speaker 20

the, cultural arts center.

01:12:03
Speaker 20

Let's see. Parks.

01:12:05
Speaker 1

Can I ask questions? Centers. I think I Museums. Got it. So the three places in 2019

01:12:10
Speaker 1

that the city said, these are the three part paid parking places. And, Jeff, they are?

01:12:16
Speaker 20

That we're gonna be doing this year? Yes. Kansas Street, Elizabeth, Easttown. So in 2019, the city said, hey, we're gonna do paid parking on those three places. And I'll be honest with you. I did not know that. And so when I saw some ParkMobile things, I went to get my hair done at, Matty's and I saw ParkMobile and I was, like, thinking that that was the paid parking already put into place.

01:12:36
Speaker 20

So,

01:12:38
Speaker 20

plan, I did not realize. So I've I've probably

01:12:41
Speaker 20

I've told myself have, disobeyed

01:12:45
Speaker 20

having to pay for the parking because I didn't notice it, I guess, until these conversations came up that there even was,

01:12:51
Speaker 20

the paid parking in those places.

01:12:54
Speaker 1

But you're good like, at those other than those three, you're saying, hey, remain free?

01:12:58
Speaker 20

Yeah. I would say, yeah. The current city,

01:13:01
Speaker 20

especially those that are, like city hall, the cultural art center, museums,

01:13:07
Speaker 20

historical homes,

01:13:08
Speaker 20

parks and rec, I think should all remain free. Yes, ma'am.

01:13:12
Speaker 1

Thank you so much, Courtney. Thank you so much. Appreciate it. Yes, ma'am.

01:13:18
Speaker 1

Jason,

01:13:18
Speaker 1

welcome.

01:13:29
Speaker 14

Jason Yowell.

01:13:32
Speaker 14

So I'm I'm here to talk about parking, but not the way you think I might be here to talk about it.

01:13:39
Speaker 14

Really more

01:13:41
Speaker 14

personal.

01:13:42
Speaker 14

I live at the corner of Pine Grove Road and a small subdivision called Old Oak Common.

01:13:49
Speaker 14

And I have two lots that have been consolidated

01:13:52
Speaker 14

into one,

01:13:54
Speaker 14

but

01:13:55
Speaker 14

I'm on the corner.

01:13:57
Speaker 14

And

01:13:58
Speaker 14

I'm bordered

01:13:59
Speaker 14

on Pine Grove with a desal lane.

01:14:02
Speaker 14

The desal lane is clearly marked with signs put up by the city of Roswell. No stopping, no standing, no parking

01:14:09
Speaker 14

with a tow away icon.

01:14:14
Speaker 14

Now I've had a lot of problems with people parking around my house because

01:14:19
Speaker 14

I don't have a house directly across the street from me on our street.

01:14:23
Speaker 14

There's a strip of land that runs from my next neighbor

01:14:26
Speaker 14

across the street on the other side of the,

01:14:30
Speaker 14

the creek.

01:14:31
Speaker 14

And I chose these two lots because I don't wanna look at anybody else's house. I don't wanna see

01:14:37
Speaker 14

things that

01:14:38
Speaker 14

I don't wanna see.

01:14:40
Speaker 14

It's very private,

01:14:42
Speaker 14

even though I'm on the corner.

01:14:44
Speaker 14

But people seem to mistake this as let's park our cars

01:14:48
Speaker 14

or our trucks

01:14:50
Speaker 14

or our construction vehicles across the street from this house because there's no house

01:14:55
Speaker 14

across the street from it.

01:14:58
Speaker 14

And they like to park in the desal lane.

01:15:03
Speaker 14

We can't see the traffic coming up Pine Grove Road when people are parked in the desal lane. It's a safety issue. That's why the signs are there.

01:15:12
Speaker 14

I have complained repeatedly

01:15:14
Speaker 14

and called the police,

01:15:17
Speaker 14

for people parking,

01:15:18
Speaker 14

whether it's utility truck pulling up in the middle of the night with the lights flashing

01:15:23
Speaker 14

two feet from the curb,

01:15:25
Speaker 14

to work on a house that's not in our subdivision,

01:15:29
Speaker 14

or it's the surveyors for the Pine Grove work parking on the grass across the street despite the fact the city ordinance clearly says

01:15:38
Speaker 14

no parking

01:15:39
Speaker 14

on the grass in residential areas.

01:15:43
Speaker 14

And then there's the desal lane, which is

01:15:46
Speaker 14

the big pain in the butt for me.

01:15:50
Speaker 14

I like to think that the residents, the business owners, and the police

01:15:55
Speaker 14

are on the same team.

01:15:57
Speaker 14

People who come to this town

01:16:00
Speaker 14

to make money and extract money from Roswell,

01:16:04
Speaker 14

they're not on our team.

01:16:06
Speaker 14

Now I'm not

01:16:07
Speaker 14

casting aspersions on that.

01:16:10
Speaker 14

As they said in the Godfather, after all, we are not communists.

01:16:14
Speaker 14

But

01:16:16
Speaker 14

when people who don't live here and are coming here to make money

01:16:20
Speaker 14

decide that they're going to use

01:16:23
Speaker 14

our neighborhoods

01:16:25
Speaker 14

as they wish for their own benefit

01:16:27
Speaker 14

because they don't want to plan accordingly.

01:16:31
Speaker 14

And the police come out and go, Well, we're not gonna enforce that.

01:16:35
Speaker 14

My mind is rather boggled.

01:16:39
Speaker 14

Recently, the subdivision is being built about 200 feet down the street from me that I actually supported the variances that made it possible for him to to get your approval.

01:16:50
Speaker 14

And I come out one morning, and they've got trucks lined up in the diesel lane literally wrapping the corner.

01:16:58
Speaker 14

I walked down there. I said, you can't park there.

01:17:01
Speaker 14

It's it it's not only

01:17:04
Speaker 14

illegal,

01:17:05
Speaker 14

it's a safety,

01:17:07
Speaker 14

problem.

01:17:08
Speaker 14

Somebody from Ardot was there. He said, I'll move my truck. I'm really sorry. He couldn't have been nicer about it. The paving company

01:17:16
Speaker 14

just looked at me like, you know what?

01:17:19
Speaker 14

I don't care.

01:17:20
Speaker 14

I come back. I I I was very nice.

01:17:23
Speaker 14

I showed them the signs. I said, you can't park here. I come back later,

01:17:28
Speaker 14

asphalt trucks lining the

01:17:31
Speaker 14

the desal lane

01:17:33
Speaker 14

up and down my neighborhood

01:17:35
Speaker 14

inside the subdivision.

01:17:38
Speaker 14

And I

01:17:40
Speaker 14

really got pissed. I called the police.

01:17:43
Speaker 14

They've never issued a ticket.

01:17:46
Speaker 14

All the times that I've called and I've said,

01:17:49
Speaker 14

I want the ordinances enforced. I want the state laws enforced.

01:17:54
Speaker 14

No. We we don't really wanna do that. Why?

01:17:58
Speaker 14

Because somebody else wants to take advantage

01:18:02
Speaker 14

of what we have.

01:18:05
Speaker 14

You don't get a ticket? You don't got a ticket?

01:18:08
Speaker 14

I did.

01:18:10
Speaker 14

I asked to go to court

01:18:11
Speaker 14

in two days,

01:18:13
Speaker 14

and I got cited for

01:18:16
Speaker 14

parking in the East Lane.

01:18:18
Speaker 14

I didn't actually park in the East Lane.

01:18:21
Speaker 14

I called the police,

01:18:23
Speaker 14

they didn't come. I called them again. They said, but we're we're busy. It's a low priority item.

01:18:28
Speaker 14

I said, I can help you with that. I pulled my truck out.

01:18:32
Speaker 14

I pulled it right across Pine Grove Road to block the traffic

01:18:35
Speaker 14

because I knew

01:18:37
Speaker 14

that would force the issue. Jason, thank you.

01:18:40
Speaker 1

Jason,

01:18:41
Speaker 1

I will set up a meeting with you, myself,

01:18:44
Speaker 1

senior vice president Jim Conroy, our police chief, senior vice president Joe Panino,

01:18:50
Speaker 1

and senior vice president Jeff Lendman.

01:18:52
Speaker 1

And I'll follow-up on your issue, on this specific issue

01:18:55
Speaker 1

because it's first I've heard of it. I'm sorry. Randy and I had a couple of long conversations I don't know. Of course, the CEO would be there if he chooses to be. Okay. He's he's already heard the whole the whole story. Alright. Well, I'll follow-up on this personally. Very good. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yes, sir.

01:19:10
Speaker 1

Thank you, Jason.

01:19:12
Speaker 1

Jamie,

01:19:13
Speaker 1

you make sure

01:19:24
Speaker 1

Thank you, sir. Yes, ma'am. In the black. I'm sorry. I'll say, hey, Lindsay. Welcome.

01:19:35
Speaker 7

How are you this evening? I am doing well. Thank you very much. I'm Lindsay Coates. 715,

01:19:40
Speaker 7

Old Park Place.

01:19:42
Speaker 7

I had no intentions of saying anything this evening. But, when it came up about having the monthly reporting and the dashboard,

01:19:50
Speaker 7

how do you intend to make sure that that is accurate and up to date considering the bond dashboard has not been so

01:19:58
Speaker 7

historically?

01:20:01
Speaker 1

Great question.

01:20:04
Speaker 1

Comms, Jeff,

01:20:07
Speaker 1

Sharon?

01:20:17
Speaker 1

Thanks, Sherry.

01:20:18
Speaker 7

I'll just,

01:20:19
Speaker 7

as an update for the bond dashboard, I apologize.

01:20:22
Speaker 7

We had a,

01:20:24
Speaker 7

change of consultant on the bond project, and, unfortunately, we've been dealing with technology, who owns what.

01:20:32
Speaker 7

I don't know if,

01:20:34
Speaker 7

if if I can adequately express the frustration I have with that. We have recently resolved it. We are restoring links and getting control of it here in house. So I apologize for that, but we expect very shortly to have the bond dashboard live. It has been extraordinarily frustrating. So you have my apologies. And by the way, just as an aside, thanks to Sharon's leadership,

01:20:55
Speaker 1

as a steward

01:20:57
Speaker 1

of yours of your money,

01:20:59
Speaker 1

it means that you don't continue to do business with someone that you're not getting the results for. And as a act a government acting like as an active agency is saying, rather than just continuing the insanity of actually stopping and doing something like something for it. There's a negative consequences come of it. Thanks, Sharon, for admitting that. That. Bill or Jeff, do you wanna address why

01:21:18
Speaker 1

this would be different on the financial reporting perspective

01:21:21
Speaker 1

than say, for example, working with a vendor externally on the bond?

01:21:37
Speaker 4

So two things.

01:21:39
Speaker 4

One is we're going to institute a reconciliation process between the bond spending that goes on shares

01:21:45
Speaker 4

our underlying general ledger system. So that's how we'll ensure the accuracy of the information. So if it's coming through our GL, it's gonna be reconciled to what goes into the project.

01:21:54
Speaker 4

I'm sorry.

01:21:55
Speaker 4

So the first will be the verification or the insurance of accuracy of the information.

01:22:00
Speaker 4

What goes into the bond dashboards will be reconciled into the accounting system. So

01:22:05
Speaker 4

that's the two way match to make sure that what goes up there is complete and accurate, the objectives of of all financial reporting.

01:22:13
Speaker 4

And then as part of our quarterly reporting process, we will also be looking at the performance of our projects.

01:22:18
Speaker 4

How they performed against budget? How they closed out? How are they in process?

01:22:22
Speaker 1

What's our forecast for future projects? But I think to Lindsay's question, so how's that different? Like, hey hey, Kurt. You said it's gonna be monthly reporting. You said there's gonna be monthly reporting. How by the way and thanks, Sharon, for the very excellent explanation on on the problem on the bond. So how's that different? How are you gonna be any good on the bond? I mean, on your just your general general financial reporting every month? Why should I trust you? Why should I believe you? So part of the monthly financial reporting is the assessment and closing of all fund accounting, including bond fund and general fund. And then the actual project reconciliation process will be a quarterly process because they tend to move a little bit slower.

01:22:58
Speaker 4

It's all internal as well? It's it's an internal process. Yes. But as far as reporting goes, it's my intention at some point to to incorporate it into the quarterly reporting package. Thank you, Bill. Thank you, Sharon.

01:23:11
Speaker 7

Will you also have

01:23:13
Speaker 7

personnel related

01:23:14
Speaker 7

item budget items on there as well that weren't

01:23:18
Speaker 4

I'm not sure. I understand.

01:23:21
Speaker 4

So the the budget will include operating and salaries personnel. Right? Plus fringe. Personnel numbers. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we have a coding process so that they get coded into the projects as they work on them. Excellent. Thank you. Okay. Did that answer your question? Absolutely. It did. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

01:23:39
Speaker 1

Yes, sir.

01:23:41
Speaker 1

Welcome.

01:23:50
Speaker 5

Mister mayor,

01:23:51
Speaker 5

council,

01:23:53
Speaker 5

my name is Gus Hadorn. I live at 175

01:23:56
Speaker 5

Jade Cove Drive, Roswell.

01:23:59
Speaker 5

We talk

01:24:01
Speaker 5

a lot about progress.

01:24:02
Speaker 5

We don't talk a lot about

01:24:05
Speaker 5

sustainability.

01:24:07
Speaker 5

And we have an environmental crisis whether we acknowledge it or not.

01:24:14
Speaker 5

We've missed some opportunities.

01:24:16
Speaker 5

When

01:24:19
Speaker 5

the Mimosa board put a solar roof on

01:24:23
Speaker 5

the house there,

01:24:25
Speaker 5

becoming the oldest net zero house in the nation,

01:24:29
Speaker 5

we had an opportunity

01:24:31
Speaker 5

to talk about solar energy and moving away from fossil fuels,

01:24:36
Speaker 5

which the whole country needs to begin to think seriously about.

01:24:41
Speaker 5

We missed an opportunity

01:24:43
Speaker 5

a few years ago

01:24:45
Speaker 5

when

01:24:46
Speaker 5

what is now Old Rucker Farm was offered

01:24:50
Speaker 5

to Roswell,

01:24:52
Speaker 5

and Roswell

01:24:54
Speaker 5

turned it down.

01:24:56
Speaker 5

We have some major

01:24:58
Speaker 5

issues

01:25:00
Speaker 5

with invasive plants

01:25:02
Speaker 5

on an awful lot of our property.

01:25:05
Speaker 5

We're really not paying any attention to our tributaries,

01:25:11
Speaker 5

and we have some real opportunities there to create trails along those tributaries

01:25:18
Speaker 5

to connect our neighborhoods

01:25:19
Speaker 5

and

01:25:20
Speaker 5

to give our people opportunities to go walking without

01:25:24
Speaker 5

having to get in their automobiles.

01:25:27
Speaker 5

So I would just like you

01:25:30
Speaker 5

to give some thought to what opportunities

01:25:32
Speaker 5

we can create together

01:25:35
Speaker 5

to make this a more pedestrian city,

01:25:39
Speaker 5

to make it a healthier

01:25:40
Speaker 5

city,

01:25:42
Speaker 5

and to make it a more,

01:25:45
Speaker 5

environmentally friendly

01:25:46
Speaker 5

place.

01:25:47
Speaker 1

Thank you. Thank you. Can I ask you a quick question, Gus?

01:25:51
Speaker 1

Gus, can I ask you a technical question? When was the Rucker Farm piece? When would when did that occur?

01:25:58
Speaker 1

It was originally

01:25:59
Speaker 1

established

01:26:00
Speaker 5

at the old Harry's

01:26:04
Speaker 5

supermarket.

01:26:06
Speaker 5

And the lady that began that,

01:26:09
Speaker 5

was forced to move because

01:26:11
Speaker 5

Harry's

01:26:14
Speaker 1

yes. The whole You mentioned the city had an opportunity. What year was that? Do you know? I don't know the year. It was probably,

01:26:23
Speaker 5

I don't know, six, seven years ago, perhaps. Okay.

01:26:27
Speaker 5

That's a guess. I'm not sure. Okay. But the lady that runs it for Alpharetta now

01:26:32
Speaker 5

originally offered

01:26:34
Speaker 5

that to the city of Roswell.

01:26:37
Speaker 1

Can can I ask you a question? Because I know you're you're very active in the city and done a lot of good things in the city.

01:26:43
Speaker 1

So and this is not my area of expertise.

01:26:46
Speaker 1

Christine Hall would have more expertise in this. And by the way, Christine deserves credit for the farmers market, massively in recruiting Christine de Victor.

01:26:56
Speaker 1

Christine's done a lot of work on the invasive plant issue. My understanding, and you correct me if I'm wrong, don't we have a pretty aggressive policy as a city towards invasive plants on most of our on most of our property

01:27:08
Speaker 1

in terms of our plantings?

01:27:10
Speaker 5

Not that I've seen, sir. I mean, there may be efforts that are in place,

01:27:15
Speaker 5

but we're covered up with privet.

01:27:19
Speaker 5

We're covered up with English ivy.

01:27:21
Speaker 5

We've got trees that, need to be taken care of because

01:27:25
Speaker 5

the the English ivy is is all over them.

01:27:29
Speaker 5

We've got Ily Agnes.

01:27:31
Speaker 5

It's not a problem that's unique to the city. It's all over the country,

01:27:35
Speaker 5

but we've got property now

01:27:38
Speaker 5

that could be

01:27:39
Speaker 5

usable, that could be

01:27:41
Speaker 5

park property.

01:27:42
Speaker 5

If you go just past the mill,

01:27:44
Speaker 5

that's a whole area of,

01:27:47
Speaker 5

privet.

01:27:49
Speaker 5

The area down,

01:27:52
Speaker 5

Hogwalla Creek, we've got ruins that are hidden in in in the in the privet.

01:27:59
Speaker 5

And,

01:28:00
Speaker 5

you know, the it's an opportunity to get rid of that stuff and the plant native plants, which which we sorely need.

01:28:08
Speaker 1

The, let me just address a little bit. David's not here tonight.

01:28:12
Speaker 1

If I could get the council to agree with me, which they don't usually, they just kind of push back. But they've all we've all been working on kind of projects, like the major projects, the major missions kind of tying into the vision. And one of them, Gus, is slow down in Roswell. And you say, well, what does that have to do with anything?

01:28:34
Speaker 1

To slow down our visitors, slow us down, particularly in our neighborhoods

01:28:38
Speaker 1

and our secondary roads. But tied to that is the plan to create more and more. And this council has already approved a lot of projects that probably are not very publicly well known, a lot of a lot of projects that are multi use trails.

01:28:52
Speaker 1

And you're gonna see under slowed down Rouswell, you're gonna see a comprehensive project submitted by this elected body

01:28:58
Speaker 1

for basically

01:29:00
Speaker 1

creating more and more walkability throughout the entire city, including in neighborhoods. Now council's got to agree to that. They got to fight through that. There's a lot of but we're working on that right now because because I'm in complete agreement with you. I want more walkability

01:29:12
Speaker 1

throughout, not just downtown, but throughout the entire city. I want more connectivity.

01:29:17
Speaker 1

You're gonna see I think I don't know if we did it the other night. Are we gonna do it where you're gonna see the connection? Oh, yeah. You saw the connection on hardscrabble.

01:29:25
Speaker 1

Right? That connection ties into perfect example of tying into the high school road,

01:29:32
Speaker 1

Woodstock King, Woodstock and King. And the next illustration you're gonna see next year is the ongoing of that all the way to downtown.

01:29:40
Speaker 1

Completely on board with you. That's a big deal. It's a big deal from a quality of life perspective. It's a big deal from a sustainability perspective. It matters to having a really prosperous, wonderfully, you know, community where people could get to one another, whether regardless

01:29:54
Speaker 1

of town, not just in the car, 100% on board with you.

01:29:58
Speaker 1

So you're gonna see and it's gonna fall underneath, slow down in Roswell. So I wanna let you know. The second thing, when you mentioned tributaries,

01:30:04
Speaker 1

so Sharon and Brian's not here, Brian Watson.

01:30:08
Speaker 1

But Sharon

01:30:09
Speaker 1

is this city, believe it or not, Gus, is at the forefront

01:30:12
Speaker 1

of really what of cities working on storm because it's my opinion

01:30:17
Speaker 1

that the sleeping giant that's out there that most people aren't paying attention you mentioned tributaries. I would tell you it's storm.

01:30:23
Speaker 1

I think stormwater is the great potential

01:30:26
Speaker 1

catechism

01:30:27
Speaker 1

out there that's waiting to really cause

01:30:30
Speaker 1

just massive ruin

01:30:32
Speaker 1

on regular,

01:30:34
Speaker 1

residential communities,

01:30:35
Speaker 1

particularly ones that have ages of 30 years plus of inventory of housing stock

01:30:40
Speaker 1

because the planning just wasn't done correctly for Storm. And you're gonna see more and more pressure. And under Sharon's leadership, this city for the last two years has been working on long term plans of how to deal with that because it's a money issue, which lack of planning issue and the solve is money. And the reality is, is that most HOAs don't have the money falls on private land. And we recognize as a government, we're going to have to be smarter than the problem and get involved in this and solve for this issue. So thank you, sir, for bringing that up.

01:31:10
Speaker 5

One one of the thoughts, one thing that I tried to promote when I was on the Mimosa board was making our historic district

01:31:19
Speaker 5

a more pedestrian friendly place.

01:31:22
Speaker 5

Mimosa Boulevard is probably our most pedestrian

01:31:25
Speaker 5

friendly,

01:31:27
Speaker 5

street right now,

01:31:28
Speaker 5

but, you know, the the city has

01:31:31
Speaker 5

chosen to build parking lots there between Mimosa and Bullock.

01:31:36
Speaker 5

And,

01:31:38
Speaker 5

and we seem to to to be encouraging the automobile rather than the pedestrian in that situation. I would submit to you that,

01:31:46
Speaker 1

Gus,

01:31:47
Speaker 1

the two years ago,

01:31:49
Speaker 1

we did the impossible.

01:31:51
Speaker 1

We got the state

01:31:53
Speaker 1

the

01:31:55
Speaker 1

state has very limited ability

01:31:57
Speaker 1

to change its speed limit if it's not a,

01:32:00
Speaker 1

if it's if it if this the state has certain requirements and the police is involved the police and transportation involved on this sort of time, that make it very hard for municipalities. It's kinda the exact opposite of home rule.

01:32:11
Speaker 1

So we can put down a speed limit, but we can't enforce it.

01:32:15
Speaker 1

Mimosa is a perfect example where really two years ago that depart our our our our our our chief Jeff Littlefield

01:32:20
Speaker 1

and and our police chief Jim Conroy

01:32:23
Speaker 1

got the we changed the speed limit 25 and then got the state to agree to it. That's a rarity,

01:32:30
Speaker 1

and it's a perfect example of we recognize the same thing you do. We want to slow down Mimosa.

01:32:36
Speaker 1

We want Mimosa to have more walking traffic.

01:32:39
Speaker 1

If there's cars there, we want them traveling at a much slower speed.

01:32:43
Speaker 1

And there are a lot of pieces you're going to see us roll out underneath slowdown Roswell, where it's going to be very clear

01:32:48
Speaker 1

to our residents

01:32:49
Speaker 1

and to our business community and to those who visit our city or come through our city measures we're gonna take bait to slow it down in Roswell for a host of reasons.

01:32:58
Speaker 1

And Mimosa is a perfect example of that. But most of that's why Christine,

01:33:03
Speaker 1

Christine Hall and David, sorry to touch it. All these things tied together. That's why this city is spending $20,000,000

01:33:09
Speaker 1

of your money on the Pine Grove project

01:33:12
Speaker 1

because of the Cobb County interfacing. The Cobb County interfacing has brought tremendous amounts of cut through traffic, more speed, more cut throughs. And by the way, it's the second height. It was arguably the first or second highest speeding area,

01:33:26
Speaker 1

a place where speeding is abused in the city, Gus.

01:33:30
Speaker 1

And so Christine came together with a plan with Jeff Littlefield,

01:33:34
Speaker 1

and David Johnson was on board and they cut a great deal, put a $20,000,000

01:33:38
Speaker 1

project on board, got the approval of the rest of their

01:33:42
Speaker 1

colleagues on council. And so we've got a $20,000,000 project coming on Pine Grove. And that project is traffic calming.

01:33:49
Speaker 1

It is traffic calming. It's about slowing down the traffic that comes in from Cobb County,

01:33:54
Speaker 1

which goes on Mimosa,

01:33:56
Speaker 1

right, or Highway 9, recognizing that's a real problem and how do we deal with that. So I'm sorry if I took too much you if I added too much to your time up there, you're probably ready to go five minutes ago. Well, it's important. Traffic's our biggest problem.

01:34:07
Speaker 5

Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir.

01:34:11
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. With the,

01:34:13
Speaker 1

American

01:34:14
Speaker 1

red, white and blue,

01:34:20
Speaker 1

I think it's right. Yeah.

01:34:22
Speaker 1

Welcome.

01:34:24
Speaker 13

Hi. My name is Ashley Glass, and

01:34:27
Speaker 13

I've lived here for twenty seven years.

01:34:31
Speaker 13

I live on Wave Tree.

01:34:33
Speaker 13

I've just got a couple of questions and a couple of comments.

01:34:37
Speaker 13

The first thing is just kind of a comment, but I am

01:34:41
Speaker 13

very concerned with our large

01:34:43
Speaker 13

deficit and what we are going to do to overcome that deficit.

01:34:48
Speaker 13

I'm just that's my comment. I'm very concerned about that because I do not want our taxes raised.

01:34:57
Speaker 13

For twenty seven years that I have lived here,

01:35:00
Speaker 13

I've also seen Alpharetta,

01:35:02
Speaker 13

Norcross,

01:35:04
Speaker 13

Woodstock

01:35:05
Speaker 13

grow all around us, and I really feel

01:35:08
Speaker 13

I know I'm hearing what you're saying, that we're doing things, but I really feel that we have been in the slow lane

01:35:15
Speaker 13

for years. And so I'm really hoping that we're gonna join all the other cities around us.

01:35:22
Speaker 13

I just again, this is a comment.

01:35:25
Speaker 13

The parking building

01:35:26
Speaker 13

does not match the city. It actually, for those of us who are native Atlanans,

01:35:32
Speaker 13

if you've seen the prison

01:35:34
Speaker 13

on Memorial Drive at 285,

01:35:37
Speaker 13

that's what it looks like.

01:35:41
Speaker 13

The other thing is so I'm an antique appraiser.

01:35:45
Speaker 13

When the city bought Mimosa An antique what? I'm sorry. An antique appraiser. Okay. Thank you. That's my job.

01:35:51
Speaker 13

And, when the city bought Mimosa, I did the appraisal.

01:35:55
Speaker 13

And I think that the city

01:35:57
Speaker 13

is really losing money. We are not doing anything with our historic homes.

01:36:03
Speaker 13

We have the same you know, people are not gonna come back over and over to these historic sites if we have the same thing

01:36:10
Speaker 13

every single year at these homes.

01:36:13
Speaker 13

This is a huge thing that could be for Roswell. It's one of the reasons why I moved here,

01:36:19
Speaker 13

and we're doing nothing

01:36:20
Speaker 13

with these properties. I mean, we could have classes there. You I mean, we could do so much with those, and they're literally just sitting there. And people are not coming

01:36:31
Speaker 13

to do the tours anymore because people have already come, done the tours, and it's the same thing.

01:36:37
Speaker 13

So we have got to figure that out. You are losing, you know, by just having them sitting there. You're losing money. We're having to keep up those buildings,

01:36:46
Speaker 13

but you need to do something. Y'all need to have, you know, get together, make you know, get together with

01:36:53
Speaker 13

historic, you know, historians that are in our community and come up with ideas for these homes because you're really just losing out on so much that these could bring in so many things to the city.

01:37:07
Speaker 1

Thank you. Ashley, thank you. Thank you so much, Ashley.

01:37:13
Speaker 1

This is,

01:37:16
Speaker 1

this is one reason why I may not run for mayor again,

01:37:20
Speaker 1

because it is so incredibly frustrating from a resident to a resident's perspective

01:37:25
Speaker 1

to exactly everything you just mentioned. By the way, large deficit, there's not a large deficit. City's never been in better financial shape. We're gonna demonstrate that on April 14. I think what we've unpacked for example, the city unpacked where you're where over $20,000,000

01:37:40
Speaker 1

of your money had been spent over the course of the past ten years supporting other city's pension funds. We discovered that. We corrected that.

01:37:49
Speaker 1

To me, that's financial stewardship at a high level. Being able to have priority based budget or zero based budgeting and actually execute that in a very, very static financial system,

01:38:00
Speaker 1

that's a significant improvement.

01:38:03
Speaker 1

The reason I ran for mayor, the significant most reason we're in for was exactly what you stated, Ashley.

01:38:09
Speaker 1

For twenty years, twenty five years under the two previous administrations, this city had been paralysis.

01:38:16
Speaker 1

It came up with lots of plans, but it was unable to take action.

01:38:20
Speaker 1

It was unable to do the things that needed to do, and you're exactly right, Ashley. Alpharetta, Milton, Johns Creek, you name it. Sandy Springs just leaped ahead of us on the economic side. It's one of the reasons. So the cornerstone of what we've been doing, and I would point to you to my

01:38:36
Speaker 1

left, like the Hill Street developments, a perfect example.

01:38:39
Speaker 1

When we came in, we inherited

01:38:41
Speaker 1

a 1.33

01:38:43
Speaker 1

acre development on the corner right here of Canton Street and Hill Street. 1.33 acres,

01:38:49
Speaker 1

96 apartments stand alone. That's what we inherited.

01:38:54
Speaker 1

On April,

01:38:55
Speaker 1

we're gonna bring you the next generation of a PSA

01:38:59
Speaker 1

of a multidimensional

01:39:00
Speaker 1

mixed use development

01:39:03
Speaker 1

with not only apartments,

01:39:04
Speaker 1

but billion and a half to $2,000,000 townhomes,

01:39:07
Speaker 1

80,000 square feet of retail,

01:39:10
Speaker 1

40,000

01:39:11
Speaker 1

square feet of office, a true transformative product to add to the dynamic economic activity of this city in the downtown. That's real work.

01:39:20
Speaker 1

We're about to deliver. I don't know why I don't know how the I don't know what like, I don't know how more economically oriented you can be.

01:39:27
Speaker 1

This city has already announced that it's going to launch a

01:39:31
Speaker 1

a sports stadium anchored entertainment district larger than the battery.

01:39:35
Speaker 1

That's a billion to $2,000,000,000

01:39:37
Speaker 1

project.

01:39:39
Speaker 1

I don't know how that doesn't have value,

01:39:41
Speaker 1

Ashley. I and that's what I've been for me is as I you could say, well, you guys aren't doing anything. I don't know.

01:39:48
Speaker 1

I don't to me, that's just like, I don't understand that. I really don't.

01:39:53
Speaker 1

Yeah. Come on up.

01:40:00
Speaker 13

Lots of residents. Again, I have been here twenty seven years, and I talked to a lot of,

01:40:06
Speaker 13

my friends and neighbors.

01:40:08
Speaker 13

And,

01:40:09
Speaker 13

so what I'm hearing is we've bought Hartscrabble.

01:40:13
Speaker 13

We've bought the one across from Target. Nothing is happening, and then we're gonna start Hill Street. Well, what about the all the other projects? I mean, like, if you've lived here for a long time, we have been stagnant.

01:40:24
Speaker 13

And then you're saying this, and we are seeing all these things hap or you're buying all these things and nothing's happening.

01:40:31
Speaker 1

Like, what's happening with the one across from Target? What's what's the plan for that one? So I just mentioned Hill Street to you, and you just blew by it as though it meant nothing. That's what the can you say all my friends and I so I'd say, yeah. So tell me the Hill Street development has no meaning, no value.

01:40:46
Speaker 1

This is the first thing I'm hearing about Hill Street. That's what I'm saying. I don't know how much where we could talk about it. It's been very So what's happening to the one across from Target? But why is Hill Street not relevant? Because Hill Street was an existing

01:40:58
Speaker 1

1.33

01:40:59
Speaker 13

acre 96 apartments. Uh-huh. This elected body and senior staff dramatically changed that project so it'd have economic viability for the city. Okay. Great. Great. Does does that not matter? It it absolutely does. But again, we're buying all this land and I But so what say we're not in a deficit, but that's not what I was saying online looking at budgets. So we're not in a deficit see that we saw this in a deficit on our budget?

01:41:23
Speaker 13

Yeah. Online. I

01:41:26
Speaker 13

again,

01:41:27
Speaker 13

you'll have to apologize. I'm actually behind in this eye. Sorry. No. Take your time.

01:41:36
Speaker 13

Yeah. I'm gonna let somebody else talk about budget. That's okay. No. No. You know, but I I again, I wanna know. Okay. You're gonna throw Hill Street out there. I wanna talk about the cross of Harts Grab. I wanna talk about the white cross I have talked about Bowen in '92.

01:41:48
Speaker 1

So a billion and a half

01:41:50
Speaker 1

deal development

01:41:51
Speaker 1

Yeah. For this city is of no value.

01:41:54
Speaker 1

And you're talking about Hill Street? No. No. I'm talking about this the the USL

01:41:59
Speaker 1

sports anchored Roswell Entertainment District. Okay. Right? That is that's of no value from an economic perspective. And when is that gonna be built?

01:42:07
Speaker 1

That is going to be announced probably on May.

01:42:10
Speaker 1

And when is it gonna be finished? Start building it? When is it gonna be finished? That's the thing is that we have all these ideas. I feel like These aren't ideas. These are these are kinda like has ADHD or something. We have all these ideas, and I feel like nothing's happening. Is your criticism of the past or the current? Both. Okay. What tell me what the criticism of the current is so I can learn from that. Because I I really wanna understand that. Because I when you said these things, that's why I said literally.

01:42:36
Speaker 1

Because I saw those things. That's why I had the same complaints as a resident.

01:42:40
Speaker 1

Like, I saw stagnation, and I saw one off projects with no strategy. So the first thing that There still is stagnation if you look. I mean, like, I went to Norcross just recently,

01:42:50
Speaker 13

and there is just booming. I mean, it's just like, wow. What happened to Roswell again? Somebody that's been here for twenty seven years. The little bit of projects we're doing does not compare to Alpharetta, Woodstock, and Norcross. They don't. I I mean, maybe they do to you because something we're actually doing something,

01:43:08
Speaker 13

but it doesn't. When you go there and people are literally

01:43:11
Speaker 13

not coming to Roswell anymore like they used to. They're just not. I mean, if you go to these other places, they're packed and we're only packed maybe on Friday and Saturday night on Canton Street with people that are, you know, just

01:43:24
Speaker 13

kinda like alive after five. Well, that's changed,

01:43:28
Speaker 13

you know, from family time and, you know, again, that's

01:43:32
Speaker 13

a whole another,

01:43:33
Speaker 13

thing. But,

01:43:35
Speaker 13

again, these are just my comments and this is what I'm hearing, and so I am sharing.

01:43:40
Speaker 1

No. I thank you for your time and I thank you for sharing. So I just wanna be clear. Yeah. Parking,

01:43:45
Speaker 1

I don't don't like it. Looks

01:43:49
Speaker 1

terrible. Not doing anything with historical buildings. By the way, just FYI,

01:43:53
Speaker 1

$10,000,000

01:43:54
Speaker 1

act activation plan. So we are to your point, I I put it to the council two years ago.

01:44:01
Speaker 1

You have these historical assets,

01:44:03
Speaker 1

either get into the historical business or get out of historical business. The city's paid a lot of money. By the way,

01:44:09
Speaker 1

I forget what's over a million dollars a year in terms of operational cost of maintaining these businesses. That doesn't make sense. And we looked at the numbers three years ago and two years ago, and the amount of visitors to some of these historic homes

01:44:22
Speaker 1

was honestly

01:44:23
Speaker 1

not even worth repeating. It was so small. So I put it to the council and said either get into the business or get down the business. And they said, we wanna get into business. I said, well, then we have to have a plan. Jeff Leatherman, senior vice president, has come up with an activation plan. It's already in place. Jeff, you wanna address some of the things that we're doing on the historic homes? Because I think it's a very good point and it's worth repeating. But I will tell you, like, literally, one of my

01:44:45
Speaker 1

these things get said all the time and, like, we're not a marketing agency. Like, the we we don't we're not we're not Coca Cola. But you hired one. No. We didn't. We hired a no. That's not true. We hired an economic czar. We hired an economic consultant.

01:45:00
Speaker 13

That's not I read their website now. It says it's about marketing. It actually didn't say anything about economics. Yeah. So it's so that Peter Sorkoff from SEER exactly

01:45:08
Speaker 1

is the cornerstone, the tip of the spear, our our economic plan. And has that investment in terms of the return on investment to you as a taxpayer is substantial, substantially good. But that's not marketing. That's not communications.

01:45:21
Speaker 1

Comms is something the city takes on, but the city is not engaged in trying to propagandize its people. The city is just simply trying to pass on information. And you're saying, hey. I don't hear that information. It's the same on same on. That's incredibly challenging and frustrating for us when we're doing the work and you're saying, I don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it. I don't see it. Like, Jeff's about to give you a plan that's been very active, very aggressively worked on, a lot of money spent on, and a lot of time. And to your point, it's like, well, okay. Then so what?

01:45:52
Speaker 8

Thank you, mayor. And I'll just cover kind of the historic park activation plan, really surround surrounds our our Founders Park vision, and it combines all of our properties together. So it combines Barrington Hall, Holly Hill that we acquired a couple of years ago, belong to Mimosa, and then also over to Bullock and includes Town Square.

01:46:10
Speaker 8

Town Square was our first area of investment, just over $500,000

01:46:13
Speaker 8

of,

01:46:14
Speaker 8

new park and then park enhancements,

01:46:16
Speaker 8

in that space.

01:46:17
Speaker 8

And then we worked on Mimosa. Mimosa has a new driveway entrance, has the First And Second Floor completely redone, and mister Malone, our parks director, will be embarking on really the enhancement to Mimosa that will allow us to activate that property for special events. Ideally, we'll be hosting anywhere from 200 to 250 people on that property after that project is done and includes activation of the entirety of the space.

01:46:41
Speaker 8

One of the first actions a couple years ago that this council also took was to essentially eliminate the charge for coming into the homes. And that was one of the biggest barriers that we found,

01:46:49
Speaker 8

for repeat visitors as you described here in our community that for those of us that are residents, sometimes when you come to the home for the first time, the barrier to entry to bring a visitor back or bring yourselves back was that you were having to pay again. And this mayor and council gave us permission to essentially forego that revenue so that we could increase access and activation

01:47:07
Speaker 8

into the homes, and we saw a 60 to 70% increase just on that move alone. So we saw really 40 to 50,000 visitors, if my memory serves me correctly,

01:47:16
Speaker 8

coming into the homes over the course of the year after we activated the homes in that way. We've also partnered with Rotary and Friends of Bullock on the Chris Kingwell market, which brings a tremendous amount of people into Bullock Hall and along that entire corridor,

01:47:29
Speaker 8

truly activating the home. So I think you'll start to see that movement forward, in agreement with that vision that really the community is looking for of activating our properties, activating the homes, and then creating access,

01:47:42
Speaker 8

to those properties,

01:47:43
Speaker 8

for a variety of reasons, both the honoring,

01:47:47
Speaker 8

remembering,

01:47:48
Speaker 8

and celebrating our history and all of the pieces of our history along with how we activate those homes, on behalf of the taxpayers and our visitors alike. And they are being incorporated into our economic development strategy as the mayor described. And, of course, we can talk quite a bit. I also see also oversee our economic development team, and happy to sit down and and talk about what we do as a strategy together because it is a difficult

01:48:10
Speaker 8

movement as you talked about. There's a number of projects that have started and stopped. And as the mayor described,

01:48:15
Speaker 8

really, this is about how we're developing a strategy. What's our downtown strategy,

01:48:19
Speaker 8

Midtown, Uptown, and East Side? And that has been developed over the course of the last two years, and and we're actively pursuing that strategy moving forward.

01:48:28
Speaker 13

Yes, ma'am. Ashley, would you like the floor is yours. I I again, I just I think that we're losing out on that sounds great, and I think we just need to put more into those. I mean, that you know, what

01:48:41
Speaker 13

town has this many historic homes, a river

01:48:45
Speaker 13

in with

01:48:47
Speaker 13

the cemeteries

01:48:48
Speaker 13

in this

01:48:49
Speaker 13

area? None. There are none.

01:48:52
Speaker 13

We we just need to, you know, this these historic homes will bring more to the local businesses

01:48:58
Speaker 13

as well. So I just I really think that we need to focus or, you know, get a group to focus on these and, you know, whatever y'all done, I I thank you. I

01:49:08
Speaker 13

have not seen it, so I'm very excited to see it. I know about Mimosa because I have been working with I I worked with the family before they sold it to y'all. So,

01:49:17
Speaker 13

I am excited to see that. But I do think that we're really

01:49:21
Speaker 13

losing out on things that we have that we could really do more with. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. Thank you, Ashley.

01:49:27
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am.

01:49:36
Speaker 21

Hi. My name is Jenny Lim, and I have been Jenny, you're famous.

01:49:45
Speaker 1

You can't just tell me yourself, Jenny Lim. Of fame. Yes.

01:49:49
Speaker 21

I have lived in Roswell for twenty plus years. I am at 1050 Martin Ridge Road.

01:49:56
Speaker 21

I have a two questions and one comment.

01:50:00
Speaker 21

So I remember at some point in the past

01:50:03
Speaker 21

the the city had talked about putting

01:50:05
Speaker 21

roundabouts

01:50:06
Speaker 21

along Grimes Bridge.

01:50:09
Speaker 21

Whatever happened with that? My question is, where did that go? Did that evaporate through

01:50:15
Speaker 1

community issues or was that part of a greater d o two DOT issue? I'm gonna let's get you an answer to that. That'd be great. Let me get you a full answer on that. Jeff,

01:50:27
Speaker 1

I have I at the top of my head, I don't wanna answer this one wrong

01:50:32
Speaker 1

because it's been it's been a while since we've talked about this. Where are we on this?

01:50:37
Speaker 1

This is director Jeff Littlefield, director of transportation.

01:50:41
Speaker 22

Good evening, mayor and council.

01:50:44
Speaker 22

Over little over a year ago,

01:50:47
Speaker 22

it was voted to

01:50:49
Speaker 22

not pursue roundabouts

01:50:51
Speaker 22

at neighborhood streets.

01:50:53
Speaker 22

We've looked at the I think it was the cottage school. Mhmm. And

01:50:58
Speaker 22

We couldn't facilitate the traffic.

01:51:03
Speaker 22

So there's nowhere really to put around about right now. So we're reevaluating

01:51:08
Speaker 22

and in addition,

01:51:11
Speaker 22

Georgia Department of Transportation

01:51:13
Speaker 22

eliminated the connection

01:51:15
Speaker 22

over 400.

01:51:16
Speaker 22

Oh, I did. Yes. And so

01:51:19
Speaker 22

that caused us to kinda rethink

01:51:22
Speaker 22

what we were doing on Grime's Bridge, and so we're in that process right now. Is it Jeff, how would you describe it? Is it in stasis?

01:51:29
Speaker 1

Is it close to dead?

01:51:32
Speaker 1

Are you waiting on us? What is what's happening from your standpoint? As far as the connection? No. Not the connection. The the roundabout that Jenny brings up.

01:51:41
Speaker 22

The roundabouts are not coming. They're dead, aren't they? We're we're yes, sir. They're dead. They're dead. Okay. We're looking at some other traffic calming measures.

01:51:49
Speaker 1

You know But as far as this roundabout on the Grange Bridge Road, for the time being, it is dead. Okay. Is that fair? That that's fair. I understand.

01:51:57
Speaker 21

I would like to point out that most days

01:52:00
Speaker 21

when I leave my office at Grimes Bridge and

01:52:05
Speaker 21

Holcomb Bridge Road,

01:52:06
Speaker 21

I spend twenty

01:52:08
Speaker 21

five

01:52:09
Speaker 21

minutes

01:52:10
Speaker 21

going up the hill

01:52:12
Speaker 21

to get to Old Dogwood.

01:52:15
Speaker 21

Twenty five minutes

01:52:17
Speaker 21

at two miles an hour.

01:52:20
Speaker 21

Something's gotta give. That's not okay.

01:52:24
Speaker 21

The next question

01:52:26
Speaker 21

is That's a statement or a question? No. That's that's a statement. Okay. Can we just question that I have for you is you're talking about making the city more walkable.

01:52:36
Speaker 21

The section of road between Riverside

01:52:39
Speaker 21

Road

01:52:42
Speaker 21

and Old Alabama

01:52:43
Speaker 21

going up that very long hill,

01:52:46
Speaker 21

there are no sidewalks there. We just had a bit of a forest fire.

01:52:50
Speaker 21

There's no sidewalks.

01:52:52
Speaker 21

Every day, I see people riding their bicycles.

01:52:55
Speaker 21

I see people walking.

01:52:57
Speaker 21

I see

01:52:58
Speaker 21

kids walking down that street. Yes, ma'am. And there's barely any street lights. People are going 55 plus miles an hour.

01:53:06
Speaker 21

It's dangerous, and that is one place that we really need sidewalks. Yes, ma'am.

01:53:12
Speaker 1

So Riverside in all

01:53:13
Speaker 1

question. Will it be will it be will there be sidewalks

01:53:17
Speaker 1

on Old Alabama, basically, in Riverside. Correct?

01:53:20
Speaker 1

Old Dogwood. Old Dogwood. Old Dogwood. I so I got that as statement one, Old Dogwood.

01:53:25
Speaker 21

Yes. It's Old Dogwood. Are you guys planning on putting

01:53:29
Speaker 21

sidewalks in along Old Dogwood

01:53:31
Speaker 21

between Riverside

01:53:33
Speaker 21

and Grimes Bridge?

01:53:34
Speaker 1

Jeff,

01:53:36
Speaker 1

which where are we on that?

01:53:38
Speaker 1

There's a plan, Jenny. I don't I I I don't wanna be straight up with you because I don't know where it is. I don't think it's

01:53:44
Speaker 1

I was thinking you said Old Alabama.

01:53:46
Speaker 21

No. I'm on the other side. Yep. Yep. Yep.

01:53:51
Speaker 22

I'll have to get back with you on that one. We do have the Riverside Road project which goes from 9

01:53:57
Speaker 22

to, basically,

01:53:58
Speaker 22

Riverside that goes to Old Alabama. And it will be resurfacing.

01:54:01
Speaker 21

Okay. But we're talking about from Old, from

01:54:07
Speaker 22

Old Alabama.

01:54:08
Speaker 1

No. French.

01:54:10
Speaker 1

Oh,

01:54:11
Speaker 22

yeah. Not

01:54:13
Speaker 22

yet. No, sir.

01:54:16
Speaker 22

Jenny, I don't know. I have honestly,

01:54:18
Speaker 1

can I can we look into it and get back to you? I don't think it's There there is a calming

01:54:23
Speaker 21

measure there. There is a flashing light, a a warning light when people are going over the speed limit.

01:54:29
Speaker 21

But I don't know that anyone other than myself and maybe one or two of my neighbors actually pay attention

01:54:34
Speaker 1

to that. Okay. Can I follow-up with you on that? Absolutely.

01:54:39
Speaker 21

The last thing I would like to say as far as well, no. It it's a question. When you talk about this massive sports complex Yes, ma'am. Can you give me a couple of names of anchor tenants?

01:54:50
Speaker 1

That is part of the master developer's job.

01:54:53
Speaker 1

Okay. The master so I'm I'm gonna guess by your question. You probably have some insight into the into that to that piece. No. Actually, I I don't. I'm concerned

01:55:02
Speaker 21

As a resident of Martin's Landing Yep. I am concerned that you're going to put how much more traffic

01:55:09
Speaker 21

at my corner.

01:55:11
Speaker 21

I mean, we spend

01:55:13
Speaker 21

hours getting on to 400 right there, and you're talking about coming in and putting in a massive sports complex

01:55:19
Speaker 1

on an overloaded street already. Yes. So you know probably the state's got $4,000,000,000.

01:55:25
Speaker 1

There's a lot that's fixing to happen. You're probably familiar with the diverging diamond interchange. You know what that's gonna do. Right? You probably have some sense of that. That's a state project, not a Roswell project. Right. The city is working actively underneath Jeff's leadership to begin. We've been working over a year and a half on trying to integrate things that we need and things that we're seeing.

01:55:44
Speaker 1

Right, in terms of having that, how do we impact

01:55:48
Speaker 1

softly some of the areas that are being they're gonna be hard impacted.

01:55:52
Speaker 1

The Georgia 400 managed lane project potentially had a hard impact on the city of Roswell. The DDI has a hard impact on the city of Roswell from a traffic perspective.

01:56:00
Speaker 1

What we've been working on is to have influence on those to begin to tap to change some of those parameters.

01:56:05
Speaker 1

That is delicate hard work. And I can't tell you with any, like, hey, this is where we're at. This is what we're doing. I can tell you we're working on it.

01:56:14
Speaker 1

But I don't have it like a in terms of that piece, that's a master developer question. So the question is, one is once you buy the land,

01:56:22
Speaker 1

right, and you secure the land with the master developer,

01:56:25
Speaker 1

then that then you basically gonna secure the stadium and then you all that raw product is gonna be entitled by the council, and and that's gonna be there'll be certain entitles to that. So you're asking a question I couldn't be even be that would be so speculative.

01:56:39
Speaker 1

Okay. Like, it would be crazy speculative on my part. My concern is that we already have

01:56:45
Speaker 21

four

01:56:46
Speaker 21

built out shopping centers in a very close proximity

01:56:50
Speaker 21

that have a lot of dead empty space. That's right. So before you go and build this massive center that you're sounds like you're gonna be very proud of,

01:57:00
Speaker 21

We need to have tenants in those other locations so that we don't have more dead shopping centers. Glad you brought that up, Jenny.

01:57:08
Speaker 1

Let me tell you, that is exactly the problem.

01:57:11
Speaker 1

When we came in, Roswell East Roswell has been suffers economic malaise.

01:57:16
Speaker 1

Right? Massive. Right? That's not a short term project. That's a long term project.

01:57:21
Speaker 1

And,

01:57:22
Speaker 1

what what am I looking at? Just wanna be careful about

01:57:25
Speaker 1

Yeah. I've I got yeah.

01:57:27
Speaker 1

Guys, cool it.

01:57:30
Speaker 1

The

01:57:31
Speaker 1

the problem with that strategy is what the marketplace has already demonstrated in East Roswell is failure.

01:57:38
Speaker 1

Right? And you have a degradation from a to b to c to d tenants.

01:57:43
Speaker 1

So there's no dynamic there's no dynamic economic activity that would happen from Kohl's,

01:57:49
Speaker 1

movie studio

01:57:50
Speaker 1

grill, even

01:57:51
Speaker 1

if you put all that and synthesize that and said boom, boom, boom. And you put in let's say the city subsidized

01:57:57
Speaker 1

that even to create market activity, which is what would have to happen because the marketplace is not gonna do that. The like, the first rule of economics is the marketplace does what's in the marketplace's interest. Right? So there's a reason that the marketplace is not in Kohl's.

01:58:10
Speaker 1

Right? There's a reason Target failed, and then there's a reason that movie studio grew. Right? The marketplace could not support it.

01:58:16
Speaker 1

So we said, look. We've gotta solve this for the East Side of our city. We gotta solve this for 40,000 residents. It's gonna take a dynamic project to change the economic energy.

01:58:26
Speaker 21

So you think by bringing in the sports complex

01:58:29
Speaker 1

that you will be bringing in more people to spend money at the accompanying shopping centers in the area. Do well, you not just change the centers. You change the values of the property, which changes investment. You change the capital's look and perceptive

01:58:44
Speaker 1

of this of that side of the city. So the capital begins to invest in new projects.

01:58:49
Speaker 1

Like, it's not just going to be, oh, let me take the status quo project there to go say, hey. The value has changed. I see the change the traffic patterns change. I see the demographics of how the dollars are spent changing. I see how much trial there is in the marketplace based upon day time and night time mixes. And then the capital says, oh, I can make money doing that. So the capital begins to invest differently. That's the key. Because on the same trigger levels that we're on today, we are this is it. Right? We're not coasting. We are failing.

01:59:18
Speaker 1

We are failing. We've been failing for thirty years and it's gotten worse and worse and worse. And there's been no attention. There was no plan for East Roswell when they got annexed. It was a tax grab.

01:59:27
Speaker 1

It was a tax grab. There was no plan to incorporate East Roswell.

01:59:31
Speaker 1

And so we look at this and say, look, we've got to save the East Side of our city. We have to save it economically, so this dynamic.

01:59:39
Speaker 1

Now you're a little bit ahead of me because I cannot tell you where the Roswell Entertainment District is because that's not been announced. I can tell you we've announced it. So So I can't I do believe it's gonna be on the East Side of the city, but I can't tell you that tonight. Okay. So you guys are you're you're telling me you don't think that you were talking about putting a sports complex on the East Side of the city. Oh, no. I'm not saying that at all. I'm not saying that

02:00:02
Speaker 1

at all. I'm just saying don't put me in a pigeonhole to say something I can't say to get me in trouble with a bunch of other people. Right? Alright. Alright. Thank you for your time and thank you all for showing up tonight. We appreciate it. Thank you so much.

02:00:14
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. Kat.

02:00:26
Speaker 23

Oh, my name is Kat Plant. I live at 100 Lake Pines Court. I think I just have comments tonight.

02:00:32
Speaker 23

I would just like

02:00:34
Speaker 23

to, again,

02:00:35
Speaker 23

encourage y'all to stop spending so much money.

02:00:40
Speaker 23

We continue to have a bloated,

02:00:42
Speaker 23

organizational chart that constantly is adding more

02:00:46
Speaker 23

positions

02:00:49
Speaker 23

with lead to lead

02:00:52
Speaker 23

same

02:00:53
Speaker 23

titles. We have multiple people doing the same thing, or at least that's what it looks like to me.

02:00:59
Speaker 23

I know we have a large budget, and we can easily find a million dollars to come up with some things is what I heard tonight.

02:01:09
Speaker 23

Our budget does not need to be as big as it is. I feel like you could easily cut

02:01:15
Speaker 23

what we spend on some things,

02:01:17
Speaker 23

mainly our upper levels of,

02:01:21
Speaker 23

salaried positions.

02:01:24
Speaker 23

Our proposed budget this year has an increase of,

02:01:28
Speaker 23

charges for services,

02:01:30
Speaker 23

is up $25,000,000

02:01:32
Speaker 23

over five years ago.

02:01:35
Speaker 23

Maybe if we stopped spending so much money on some things, we wouldn't have to charge our residents

02:01:40
Speaker 23

$25,000,000

02:01:42
Speaker 23

more for services

02:01:43
Speaker 23

than we did five years ago.

02:01:46
Speaker 23

Our sales tax

02:01:48
Speaker 23

revenue keeps increasing, so I feel like that's money coming in. We

02:01:53
Speaker 23

don't have to charge so much for services.

02:01:56
Speaker 23

We could come up with money to,

02:01:59
Speaker 23

preserve the cemeteries that we need to and our history that has been neglected.

02:02:05
Speaker 23

We could maybe not spend so much money on retreats every year,

02:02:10
Speaker 23

less money on consultants.

02:02:13
Speaker 23

Sorry. I will always pick on SEER. We spend too much money on that.

02:02:17
Speaker 23

But that's all. Thanks. Have a good night.

02:02:20
Speaker 1

Kat, thank you so much. Thank you for your time and comments as always.

02:02:27
Speaker 1

Other Roswell residents?

02:02:30
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. Sally, welcome.

02:02:38
Speaker 24

Mayor and council. It's been a little while since I've been here. Good to see y'all.

02:02:41
Speaker 24

Oh, hi. Good evening, mayor and council. Welcome, Sally.

02:02:46
Speaker 24

I just I was actually watching online, and I wanted to come down and,

02:02:50
Speaker 24

thank you all. I feel like this has been a great,

02:02:54
Speaker 24

open mic night. I saw a lot

02:02:57
Speaker 24

of comments coming forward and concerns that

02:03:01
Speaker 24

you addressed in a manner that showed that I think that y'all are taking care of business

02:03:06
Speaker 24

in a lot in a lot of areas where residents have been concerned, and,

02:03:13
Speaker 24

you're actually on the same page. We are actually on the same page.

02:03:18
Speaker 24

I also

02:03:20
Speaker 24

the main reason I came rushed right down was because there was a comment about the the lack of activity, the lack of change, the lack of progress,

02:03:28
Speaker 24

and I have lived in Roswell since 1995

02:03:35
Speaker 24

or something.

02:03:39
Speaker 24

I have been involved

02:03:40
Speaker 24

and paid attention since 2013.

02:03:44
Speaker 24

'13. The last two years, I have never seen so much activity

02:03:48
Speaker 24

and planned change

02:03:51
Speaker 24

as the last two years. And so,

02:03:54
Speaker 24

and I'm not I don't necessarily agree with everything,

02:03:57
Speaker 24

but to say

02:03:59
Speaker 24

that you,

02:04:01
Speaker 24

that nothing's nothing is happening is just,

02:04:04
Speaker 24

I would pass if I wasn't here. It's just not true.

02:04:08
Speaker 24

So I I just wanna set the record straight. I I I you all have done you're moving at lightning speed. I think sometimes too fast again,

02:04:16
Speaker 24

personal opinion.

02:04:20
Speaker 24

But also,

02:04:21
Speaker 24

just a side note, just a little thing about Mimosa Hall. There's a great Easter concert there, on on

02:04:28
Speaker 24

the fourteenth.

02:04:30
Speaker 24

Roswell Music Club continually has events there. Oh my gosh. Amazing events. So,

02:04:36
Speaker 24

if you're not tuned in,

02:04:39
Speaker 24

public, if you're not tuned in,

02:04:42
Speaker 24

follow Roswell Music Club, follow Roswell Arts Fund, get on 365.

02:04:48
Speaker 24

Mimosa Hall is activated, and I look forward to seeing how much more activated it's gonna be after the improvements and changes,

02:04:55
Speaker 24

that are coming.

02:04:57
Speaker 24

So, again, I just wanted to,

02:05:01
Speaker 24

thank you all. I don't always agree with you, but but I wanna thank you all for your work and your continued effort. You put your head down. You get the work done. So thank you. Thank you, Sally.

02:05:11
Speaker 1

Thank you.

02:05:12
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. Lee.

02:05:14
Speaker 18

Thank you, miss McKenzie. And miss Glass, I just wanna give you,

02:05:18
Speaker 18

is it Ashley Glass? Ashley Glass.

02:05:20
Speaker 18

I this is not a, an attack. I just wanna give you a little short report of what what I could come up with here, and several things have already been talked about in regard to the historic assets and the utilization of those.

02:05:32
Speaker 18

No one would like to see those activated more than I. I I love them. I'm so glad we have them, and they give us a lot of opportunity to talk about our past, the enslaved, the white people that owned them, the whole nine. But in addition to some of the things that have been,

02:05:45
Speaker 18

mentioned, I will tell you, maybe your posse, your group of friends doesn't go to the historic assets, but I have a ton of people that are now able and want to take their friends, neighbors, family when they have guests in town to them because they don't have to pay again. And I'm gonna use a really bad analogy. Everybody up here knows I'm not a big sports fan, but I took my net nephews and kids to the Football Hall of Fame, like, five years ago and paid a fortune to go, and everybody had a great time. I'm probably never gonna go again. I'm not gonna pay 35 or $38 to go in there for something that I'm not excited about. But I had a good time that time.

02:06:18
Speaker 18

Same thing could be said for our historic assets. For people visiting, you go once as a resident, you're like, well, I've seen it. I don't want to pay again to go take my neighbor or my my, you know, mom or brother or whomever. But I know people that are taking tours on some of our, trails and then stopping by one of the historic homes and then eating out or not.

02:06:37
Speaker 18

But I we've seen a massive uptick in that.

02:06:40
Speaker 18

The Earth Day program that we put on two years ago was at Mimosa Hall.

02:06:45
Speaker 18

Unfortunately, it wasn't very well attended, but it was really cool.

02:06:48
Speaker 18

So we decided not to bring that back.

02:06:51
Speaker 18

You just heard mention of the music club by Miss McKenzie, and that is a month almost monthly event that's been taking place for up to 70 people. It's usually around forty, forty five,

02:07:01
Speaker 18

and they bring in all kinds of different entertainment,

02:07:03
Speaker 18

from musicians on string or brass or, vocals.

02:07:08
Speaker 18

That right now, while we're doing projects,

02:07:10
Speaker 18

of work on Mimosa Hall to get it ready for special events that will start taking place next year,

02:07:16
Speaker 18

will be temporarily

02:07:17
Speaker 18

temporarily relocated down to the Roswell River Landing, which affords a little more seating and a little change of scenery.

02:07:23
Speaker 18

I've heard very positive feedback on that and some people that don't want to leave Mimosa for the time being. So that's fair. But it opens up another place that's really beautiful on our river for people to see.

02:07:33
Speaker 18

They will come back to Mimosa Hall, once it's opened back up.

02:07:37
Speaker 18

We had, last year, the slave dwelling project, and I attended all three,

02:07:42
Speaker 18

events.

02:07:43
Speaker 18

The first one was at Mimosa. There were, I think, 78 people. I'm an event planner by trade, so I usually count heads like I did tonight and here to see how many people were here.

02:07:51
Speaker 18

And so I noticed that and it was very well attended at Mimosa. The next day at Bullock, we had an open demonstration

02:07:59
Speaker 18

on the grounds of Bullock out there outside

02:08:02
Speaker 18

of the, the the outbuildings that are

02:08:05
Speaker 18

slave, slave buildings that are recreations of that. So there was an open fire with Miss Carissa,

02:08:11
Speaker 18

there was a soap making,

02:08:13
Speaker 18

and how people watch slaves wash the white clothes. It's called whiting or whiting, I believe, or bluing even. It's a bluing agent.

02:08:21
Speaker 18

Yeah. Forgive me. I'm not trying to school you. I just wanna tell you what so the people listening can understand what sort of programming we do put on.

02:08:28
Speaker 18

And that was about

02:08:44
Speaker 18

just a few others. Christkindlmarket was mentioned.

02:08:47
Speaker 18

Mimosa was able to piggyback on that with several different,

02:08:50
Speaker 18

photo setting shoots with,

02:08:52
Speaker 18

with Santa Claus prior during that time period. We just brought back the quilt show at Bullock Hall. They had a record 500 people, I think, in five days that they were open. Roswell roots. We've had authors, at Mimosa that did the ABCs of black inventors

02:09:07
Speaker 18

while there was a,

02:09:08
Speaker 18

a story reading in the front room.

02:09:12
Speaker 18

I mentioned mimo mimosa being monetized. We have tons of people coming to take prom and homecoming photos, and that's,

02:09:20
Speaker 18

not

02:09:21
Speaker 18

even counting the folks that have a, license to come photograph for weddings, bar mitzvahs, engagements,

02:09:27
Speaker 18

family shots, that sort of thing that we are monetizing. And it increases our exposure.

02:09:32
Speaker 18

People tell me all the time kids don't wanna be around this old stuff, and it's so funny because they're standing on Canton Street or standing in front of Bullock or in front of Smith or in full of in front of Barrington taking pictures of what feels comfortable and like home. And, I I can relate to that. And, again, I don't I don't wanna sound like I'm schooling. I'm trying to blow through this. The Beyond My Stone has been an incredible program that we do,

02:09:56
Speaker 18

the Roswell Historical Society

02:09:58
Speaker 18

in partnership with several other agencies in the city,

02:10:01
Speaker 18

where we have actors, some local phenoms,

02:10:04
Speaker 18

and others that are just passionate about the history of who's buried at what cemetery. And the one that was

02:10:09
Speaker 18

last year, I believe, was at the Pleasant Hill,

02:10:13
Speaker 18

Baptist Cemetery that was discussed earlier tonight. I've been to all of them but the founders,

02:10:18
Speaker 18

cemetery

02:10:20
Speaker 18

over the time I've lived here in twenty three years. Of course, the tree lighting, was a serious dud for years and years and years at our historic original town square, and we moved it three years ago to Heart of Roswell and then put in a, Deck the Square, which is local,

02:10:36
Speaker 18

local nonprofits organizations or just I want to do one. Anybody can sign up to do a tree and decorate that to draw people in. So, again, I don't want this to ever sound condescending.

02:10:46
Speaker 18

It's not 500 things.

02:10:48
Speaker 18

It's not. But it is, a start in some unique things to get people engaged and that hopefully would draw them into and this is just what I came up with on the top of my head. I just wrote these down.

02:10:58
Speaker 18

But anyway, I appreciate your perspective, and it does mean a lot. And if if any of that sounds negative, I don't mean it to. So thank you. Thanks for indulging me. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, Councilmember Hills. Any other comments from Roswell residents? Yes, ma'am.

02:11:21
Speaker 1

Welcome.

02:11:23
Speaker 25

Thank you. My name is Liz Goldsmith. I've lived in Roswell for twenty years. I'm also an educator in Roswell.

02:11:30
Speaker 25

Couple questions.

02:11:33
Speaker 25

Regarding SEER,

02:11:35
Speaker 25

and you had described them as the spearhead

02:11:39
Speaker 25

of the financial economic plan for Roswell. Chip of the spear. Is that correct? Chip of the spear. Sorry. Thank you.

02:11:46
Speaker 25

My question is,

02:11:48
Speaker 25

was it not part of their contract to provide quarterly

02:11:52
Speaker 25

reports

02:11:53
Speaker 25

and progress?

02:11:54
Speaker 25

Yes, ma'am. It was. Okay. So I didn't see anything on the website, and I did an open records request.

02:12:01
Speaker 25

And what I got back was October

02:12:04
Speaker 25

2024.

02:12:06
Speaker 25

And so there's not one for December,

02:12:09
Speaker 25

and now we're at March 31. Yes, ma'am. So where are we as a city on making sure sure that we're being fiscally responsible and good stewards

02:12:19
Speaker 1

when we have such a sizable economic investment in that company, yet they are not giving us feedback? Well, they they are, and that's us, and you'll see that report. Is that tomorrow? So maybe it's an open records request? Yes, ma'am. By the way, Liz, feel free. Yeah. You can set beside you can feel free to do ORs. You can also send that question directly to me. Either way. But April 15. Fifteenth. April 15, you're gonna see the SEER quarterly report, and there will be November and December of twenty twenty four, and you'll see the first quarter of twenty twenty five. So that's not a quarterly report then? It's not because there was a change I'm just trying to clarify. No. There was a change in the fiscal year. And so I don't know what

02:12:58
Speaker 1

we they came across with the contract

02:13:01
Speaker 1

I'm sorry? Skipped it. No. We didn't skip it. That's why it's going to be you're going to see it next on April, you're going to see the first quarter report and you're going to see the because they had it tied into the the finance had it tied into the

02:13:13
Speaker 1

contract, which was May and one of the things. So that's it's a little gerrymandered from a time perspective.

02:13:19
Speaker 1

So you're gonna see all five months. You'll see the two months. You'll see November, December separate, and then you see the first quarter separate.

02:13:27
Speaker 25

Okay.

02:13:28
Speaker 25

My area is not finance. So my understanding of quarterly reports

02:13:33
Speaker 25

is that we know where we are quarterly Yes, ma'am. Not retroactive,

02:13:37
Speaker 1

like this is what we did Yes, ma'am. A quarter. Is that correct? Yes, ma'am. And that's what you're gonna see going forward.

02:13:43
Speaker 25

Okay. So

02:13:44
Speaker 25

with the amount of financial expenditure that we have going into a company like SEER and that they are also

02:13:52
Speaker 25

I don't know. What do you what would you call it?

02:13:54
Speaker 25

Job sharing or COO?

02:13:57
Speaker 1

No, ma'am. Oh, job sharing. Explain that? Oh, you're the COO? I don't really understand that myself. How would you explain it? I mean, job sharing is that they they went out. It's contract employee. Yeah. Which is not uncommon, Liz. It's done in cities all the time. Sandy Springs, Benning Springs with a company Yeah. Cities do that. Yes. To then contract with that employee.

02:14:18
Speaker 25

Yes, ma'am. A contract employee. Would it be a question to you or through an open records request? I believe in the,

02:14:25
Speaker 25

budget information, that's a $330,000

02:14:29
Speaker 25

salary Yes, ma'am. But it's a part time COO. Correct? No, ma'am. It's not a 100% position? It's a 100%.

02:14:37
Speaker 1

That individual works seventy to eighty hours a week at the city of Roswell.

02:14:41
Speaker 1

In the contract, it doesn't say a full time. It may not, but the the the results for you as a tax payer are double what the contract says.

02:14:51
Speaker 25

Well, I'm I'm understanding

02:14:52
Speaker 1

the contract. Can I ask you a question? Yep. Tell me what's what you want to know that's important to you that we're not that we're not providing to you. Sure. Well, I'd like to know if we're we have this

02:15:02
Speaker 1

enormous financial contract with SEER. Why do you say it's enormous? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Give me. Why do you say it's enormous?

02:15:09
Speaker 1

I mean, in the scheme of our budget But so it's quite sizable. Correct? So I'm just curious because I've heard that before, and I'm always kinda confused because I've never seen the same kind of consternation over other vendors. For example, Jacobs, which is one that basically Sharon get to and said put a stop to that we'd spent I don't I'm not familiar with Jacobs. So if we can I'm just saying but I'm just saying I'm just saying but there's a lot of vendors that we spend a lot of. But if you don't understand my question here.

02:15:36
Speaker 1

But

02:15:38
Speaker 23

yeah. Through a whole list of all of the vendors Yes, ma'am.

02:15:43
Speaker 1

Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Share and show it Yes.

02:15:57
Speaker 1

I will I will tell you, Liz, for my for my money. Like, I

02:16:01
Speaker 1

as a resident, right,

02:16:05
Speaker 1

I'm and as someone who's actually now on the in the government side, I can tell you that for me,

02:16:11
Speaker 1

it is hard sometimes because I can't pass on the information

02:16:14
Speaker 1

of how much SEER has meant to this city and how much the dollars that we've invested in the city, how much it's meant to me as a taxpayer. Well, I think that's all opinion. Right? So if we Well, it's inform but, Liz, the difference is the difference is is it's highly informed opinion. It's highly informed. It's not just an opinion. It's not, hey. Oh, by the way, hey. We're spending a lot of money with SEER. I'm one of the people up one of the people responsible for making that decision. I'm not nearly willy about how you spend your money. I'm I have a fiduciary responsibility about how you spend your money. And so when it's always a pushback like, well, you're not spending our money wisely. That for me is a different question. Okay. I didn't say No. No. I know you're not. But often that's the sear I think my questions are very black and white. So I don't think we have to But yes, ma'am. You deserve lay into the feelings aspect. Yep. But I'm trying to understand, would it be an open records request or an email to you, or maybe you can direct me to one of the senior vice presidents of departments

02:17:10
Speaker 25

that could answer it? But we have this large expenditure

02:17:14
Speaker 25

to see her. We also have this additional contract for the COO.

02:17:18
Speaker 25

In any of the paper, I can't ascertain

02:17:21
Speaker 25

what part of that $330,000

02:17:24
Speaker 25

salary is actually going to that COO or is going to see her as the

02:17:30
Speaker 25

manager of that COO? Does the COO report to

02:17:34
Speaker 25

the mayor and council, or does the COO report to see her who we pay as the consultant? COO reports to the CEO.

02:17:42
Speaker 1

The CEO

02:17:43
Speaker 1

reports to the mayor and council. The COO reports to the CEO, not to SEER. To answer your question specifically, the 330 or three forty is 100%

02:17:52
Speaker 1

pass through.

02:17:53
Speaker 1

So SEER retains zero, not a penny of that

02:17:57
Speaker 1

in terms of there's there's no money that SEER gains from the contract employment of the COO to the city of Roswell. $0,

02:18:04
Speaker 25

not 1p. Okay. Well, great. That's an excellent black and white, no feelings answer.

02:18:09
Speaker 25

Second thing is,

02:18:11
Speaker 25

in the

02:18:12
Speaker 25

quarterly that's not quarterly, but is going to be quarterly Yes, ma'am. Reporting going forward, there seems to be a lot when I've asked for this information

02:18:21
Speaker 25

that says x amount was paid to see her, and then the next report comes out, and then there's more money that's paid to see her for the same thing Yes, ma'am. That wasn't filed or paid in the previous quarter.

02:18:33
Speaker 25

It seems like

02:18:34
Speaker 25

there should be tighter

02:18:37
Speaker 25

record keeping or accounts payable, accounts receivable

02:18:41
Speaker 25

so that something that says at the end of this quarter was 74,000,

02:18:46
Speaker 25

then over here where it's not even a quarter yet but isn't really reported oh, no. That was really 85,000.

02:18:52
Speaker 25

To me, that's not transparency

02:18:54
Speaker 25

of budget when money is moving like this

02:18:58
Speaker 25

after reporting.

02:19:01
Speaker 25

So if something took place, say, in August, correct,

02:19:05
Speaker 25

that was paid out, but then in the quarterly report in October,

02:19:11
Speaker 25

doesn't list that.

02:19:13
Speaker 25

But then when we get another report in April 15,

02:19:17
Speaker 25

now list something for last August.

02:19:21
Speaker 25

That doesn't match up with the budgeting and the reconciliation on quarterly reports.

02:19:26
Speaker 1

Is that gonna be something we see being better going forward? Well, I sure hope so. That sound that sound good. Great. That doesn't sound there. That doesn't We agree. Great. That doesn't sound very good. Excellent.

02:19:40
Speaker 8

So, mayor and council and and for the community, I'll be,

02:19:44
Speaker 8

providing the quarterly report later in the month of April.

02:19:48
Speaker 1

April 15. Thank you. April At committee. At committee. Not a council, but the fall they follow on Tuesday the fifteenth. That's right.

02:19:55
Speaker 8

And and, yes, you know, we are working very diligently to make sure that we have a clear and understandable report. We're working with our finance team and reconciling the invoices that are coming through. We just processed the last invoices that were at the end of this month today so that we can include those as part of the quarterly report month end of 03/31/2025,

02:20:14
Speaker 8

and you should be able to track those through. Now, of course, if there's questions,

02:20:18
Speaker 1

I'm gonna answer those as we go. And, Liz, let me give you another piece that you didn't ask, but you're probably gonna ask the next time. You're gonna say, why there's so many SOWs?

02:20:26
Speaker 1

Because I have recently directed the team to get more SOWs more specific because of all the work that's done in the city behind the scenes

02:20:35
Speaker 1

that Sears involved in. And I said, quit globbing it up underneath this or that and be very specific about the statement of work, the actual work that SEER is doing because that needs to be expressed to the community. The community needs to see the work that SEER is doing. This is the work that you're paying for. And so I will tell you, I predict that you're gonna see a lot more SOWs much more specific

02:20:59
Speaker 1

because my request has been I wanna see more SOWs are more specific, more direct I don't wanna see them globbed up. So I don't know if that I know you're not asking that question, but you'll probably ask that question next time. Well, that's a great thing to look forward to because I did definitely take notes on the deliverables that were promised today. So I hope that we do see those coming forward. Yes, ma'am. You mentioned a couple of times the,

02:21:22
Speaker 25

billion dollar sports entertainment Yes, ma'am. On the East Side Of Roswell.

02:21:28
Speaker 1

Actually, I didn't say the East Side Of Roswell. Jenny said the East Side Of Roswell. And I said, Jenny, I gotta back out of this. I do not wanna get pinned to that conversation tonight. Okay.

02:21:39
Speaker 25

But the sports complex that you said is a huge deal, and why isn't it more of a huge deal?

02:21:45
Speaker 25

I guess some of my questions are, who's paying for it?

02:21:50
Speaker 25

You talking the billions of dollars.

02:21:52
Speaker 25

So who is paying

02:21:54
Speaker 25

and what

02:21:55
Speaker 25

direct benefit

02:21:57
Speaker 25

is the city of Roswell

02:22:00
Speaker 25

going to gain as far as,

02:22:02
Speaker 25

you know, commercial tax,

02:22:04
Speaker 25

etcetera, that is tangible, not just Yes, ma'am. Ideas of capital investment.

02:22:09
Speaker 1

I'm you're you're I've got the red light, but I'm gonna answer your question.

02:22:13
Speaker 1

The first performance shows about 11 half million dollars of tax revenue outside of the standard outside of where we what we what we project

02:22:21
Speaker 1

is about deliver about 11

02:22:23
Speaker 1

of tax revenue that we And the stadium size? So the specifics of the project Ish.

02:22:29
Speaker 1

The specifics of the project will be delivered when the master developer is announced. So I don't wanna get ahead of that. It would be it would be premature

02:22:37
Speaker 1

for me to do that tonight. No specific size. Not And you said that No. There's specific sizes, but that is a part of the project tied to the master developer. And and I'm not gonna master development

02:22:47
Speaker 25

project information will be forthcoming.

02:22:49
Speaker 1

It will be forthcoming as soon as the land deal is consummated

02:22:53
Speaker 25

and as soon as the master developer deal is consummated. Okay. So the land's being bought from the city of Roswell?

02:22:59
Speaker 1

No, ma'am. I can't address it anymore. It's a real estate deal. Any more any more commentary for me would be,

02:23:06
Speaker 1

Okay. Interesting. Because you were asking a lot of questions why it wasn't more. And I guess We talked about the USL piece. We talked about the Roswell It's not more because Well, we talked about okay. We talked about the Roswell Entertainment District. We talked about the USL. I know numerous times, and I said, why is that nobody you said Well, I do have some questions about the USL because I've done some research

02:23:27
Speaker 25

on that rumor and It's not a rumor.

02:23:30
Speaker 1

So it's not a rumor. It's we we actually did a press conference with it, announced it, and had the USL CEO. But I thank you for your time. You've been amazing. Great questions. Feel free to reach out to me directly. On those things. Yes, ma'am. Appreciate it. Thank you so much.

02:23:47
Speaker 1

Any other Roswell residents who would like to come

02:23:51
Speaker 1

up? Really appreciate everybody's time tonight. Thank you so much. Thank you for all your pieces.

02:23:56
Speaker 1

I owe some folks some time,

02:24:00
Speaker 1

some follow-up,

02:24:01
Speaker 1

and I thank you so much. Being that there are no other items or address or comments, this city council mayor and city council meeting of

02:24:09
Speaker 1

03/31/2025

02:24:11
Speaker 1

is adjourned. Thank you so much.

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