Agriculture & Consumer Affairs 2.3.26

Okay. Thank you, for your patience, and I'm gonna call this meeting to to order. I wanna ask, representative Reese to open us up with a word of prayer.

If you

will bow your heads with me, please. Dear heavenly father, thank you for your protection on allowing allowing us to get here today safely. Lord, we thank you for allowing us to serve in these positions of leadership as we serve the people of Georgia. Lord, we ask that you keep the best on our minds, keep the people of Georgia on our minds, and keep fairness and equality on our minds as we go through this committee work. In your name, we pray.

Amen.

Thank you. Let me, tell the audience a little bit what the status is. We've started late. We had a, caucus meeting and could not get started. We also have a meeting behind this meeting.

I knew we were on a tight schedule, and that's why, this is a hearing only for s b 33. It's gonna be hearing light. I know a lot of you, signed up to speak, might not get all involved, and probably won't. I know we won't. But I wanted to get, senator, Kirkpatrick here to present her, bill, her sub.

She's got a sub. And I wanted to make sure it was in the record and just set the stage. We will have another full hearing on it next week, so I apologize due to conflicts, with this committee, with rooms. We we sorta had to have this meeting today instead of in the morning. So that's our status.

So I've got a couple other speakers until, is here. She's presenting other bills, another meeting. So I wanna call, Kyle Wade, president of, Atlanta Community Food Bank to come speak, if she would, and give our committee a little, update on what's going on with Atlanta Food Bank. And you can go to the, whichever you would like to. Color table or to the podium.

Thank you, mister chairman. If it, is suitable for the chairman, Julie, Kuykendahl from Feeding Georgia is gonna join me as well. She represents the other food banks that serve the rest of the state of Georgia outside of, the territory that my food bank serves.

I'm so sorry. It's kinda hectic.

All good. Well, we, mister chairman and members of the committee, we so appreciate, the opportunity to be here with you today. My name is Kyle Wade. I'm the CEO of the Atlanta Community Food Bank. We're gonna talk today, in particular about the Georgia Farm to Food Bank, initiative that has helped us provide a healthy, nutritious food to families facing food insecurity across the state while also providing, important support to our, incredible agricultural, community, in the state of Georgia.

Before we get to that, I wanna just provide a little bit of context about, our work and what we're experiencing on the on the front lines today, across communities, all across Georgia. My Food Bank serves 29 counties in Metro Atlanta and North Georgia. We work with a network of 700 community based nonprofit organizations, the vast majority of which are faith based organizations, so churches and other of faith based institutions. We supply those 700 partners with food and resources, which they then in turn, distribute to families in need in their local communities. And we've been doing that for nearly fifty years now, across North Georgia.

Over the past four years, we have seen an extraordinary increase in the amount of demand for food assistance, from our network. We're serving 70% more people today than we did just four years ago and currently serve about 260,000 households every month, demand is among families who earn too much money to qualify for federal benefit programs. So these are folks who, by definition, are working, but because they're spending more money at the grocery store, at the gas pump, on their rent or mortgage, on health care costs, they now cannot afford, to meet all of their basic needs in a way that they could just a few years ago, and they're needing help, which they're getting from our network. So we're seeing demand, at a historically high level higher than it was during the pandemic. And at the same time, we're seeing a lot of pressure on resources.

We've, experienced some significant, cuts to, federal commodity programs through the USDA, that have, put pressure on our levels of inventory. We, of course, are also facing the same kind of cost pressures that every other business is facing, increased, costs for payroll. We're spending more, money, to purchase food. The cost for us to buy food has gone up. Cost for gas and everything else has gone up.

So there's a lot of resource pressure on food banks at the very time same time that we're facing historically high levels of need in our community. Now food banks like mine are, are responding aggressively to those challenges. We've invested significantly in our capacity to get more food out into the community. My food bank, works out of what is the largest food bank facility in the country. It's a 350,000 square foot facility that we, built and moved to in 2020, down here by the airport.

And a big part of that increased capacity is the increased capacity to move perishable food, including produce. We have about 80,000 square feet of freezer cooler space and a significant fleet of, all refrigerated vehicles that allow us to move that food safely across our community. We've worked really closely with the agricultural community and with other industry groups like the, retailers, across the state to increase access to fresh and perishable products. We're we're getting now close to 40,000,000 pounds a year, from grocery stores that are almost all perishable products. We'll we'll this year distribute about 40,000,000 pounds of fresh produce, and we've, brought online a USDA certified clean room that allows us to move more agricultural, product in the form of, chicken and other kind of proteins, that before were harder for us to, accept as donations.

So all of that means that we're trying to innovate and find new ways to get really great Georgia grown products, on the tables of families who are facing food insecurity today so that we can respond effect effectively to this increase in demand. And we know that, growing the great partnership we have with our Department of Agriculture and with our growers across the state of Georgia will help us meet more of that demand. So I'm gonna kick it to Julie to talk about what the other food banks in the state are seeing and to talk about our specific requests for increased funding for the farm to food bank program.

Thank you.

I

wanna say thank you, Julie. I'm sorry I didn't introduce you a minute ago. Brand new director of Feeding Georgia of this started this fall, I think, Did you not?

Yes, ma'am.

It's really hit the ground running. I've seen her multiple places. Did a wonderful job with the, wild hog supper and all that went on with that. So thank you for, supporting that and doing that. And just so excited to have you in this new position.

Big job, big shoes to fill

Yes, sir.

But, off to a great start. So thank you for being here.

Thank you. Thank you so much for your time. It's an honor to be able to speak to you all today. As you heard from my colleague, Kyle, at the Atlanta Community Food Bank, I'm Julie Kuykendall with Feeding Georgia. We represent, all of the state food banks, across our great state of Georgia.

That includes Atlanta, and, we are I like to say, lord sort of like the, Chamber of Commerce for food banks. We represent them proudly and and are honored to get to do so. The our food banks across the state, work with, more than 2,400 partner agencies, and those are the soup kitchens and church pantries that supply the food to those that are facing hunger and food insecurity, in their neighborhoods and communities. So you all may be familiar with that in your own hometowns. One of the things that was important, that Kyle highlighted is the state of need right now, across that network.

There has been a lot of downward pressure, especially related to federal nutrition programs, which are very important to the feedback network. Because of changes, shelves are a little bare than they normally are, and, that's something that always, causes concern for us. Those nutrition programs have been very successful. But as you get outside of Metro Atlanta, some of our food banks, count on those programs. So it's upwards of 50% of their inventory at any given time.

So when changes happen, we keep an eye on that. The other thing that you heard Kyle allude to is that our food banks have been able to build capacity in the last couple of years, which is always the dream. You know, our food banks always say, gosh, if we had more capacity, we could distribute more food. And we've been able to do that thanks to the great leadership of Dana Craft, and her partners in the community. We've been able to bolster that capacity.

So now we can, in fact, do just that, distribute more folk food to folks that need it. One of the bright spots that has been working really well for us is the, Georgia grown farm to food bank purchase program. So this allows our our our food banks to purchase at a discount, number one, produce, and that's in oversupply. So the produce that is in oversupply and the price is falling, we can come in and purchase that at a discount, and that helps two big important things. One, our farmers across the state of Georgia, and also, of course, our food banks and those who, are served by our food banks.

That's healthy, nutritious produce that's grown right here

in Georgia that gets

to the folks nutritious produce that's grown right here in Georgia that gets to the folks who need it. That program has been incredibly successful. Right now, as Kyle said, we have, eight eight hundred twenty five thousand that we're working with. And so we're coming to ask you this year for help in expanding that program. We have more capacity to push that healthy, nutritious food out to those who need it and are facing food insecurity and hunger.

We have deepened and strengthened our relationships with our farmers. It's been wonderful. I was just down at the Georgia Farm Bureau conference in Jekyll, my first time in Jekyll. I know that's hard to believe. And it was wonderful to spend time with those farming families and really understand how important a program like this is to them so that they have a place to to, count on when that, supply is that surplus is happening, and they're looking for ways to, put that out into the market.

So we are humbly and and, asking for $5,000,000 to expand that program this year. And, we really thank you for your time. I want you all to know that, if you're ever in in interest in taking a tour, you are always welcome. You have food banks in your territory. We're always happy to identify those.

If you and your staff would ever like to come out and take a tour and volunteer, we are always here for you and would love to have you. With that, I just wanna say thank you so much for your time. We are honored to be here today and very appreciative.

Well, thank you for that presentation, and, we're gonna save any questions, from the committee. For a little later, you'll be here, when we get finished. So thank you. Thank you both for what y'all do. Really, important, program to a lot of people, in Georgia.

So thank you. Senator Kilpatrick. Alright. Now hold on just a moment. Or have you got a few minutes or you gotta go back?

I've got

thirty minutes. Okay. Thank you. I'm a I got one more speaker, Matthew Kalinski with your department of ag. He's gonna do a short presentation, then we're gonna let you present s p 33.

So Matthews kinda goes along, with this, and I just thought it would be very informative, for the committee to hear. Thank you for being here, Matthew.

Wonderful. Thank you, chairman Dickey, for inviting me to be here. I will be very brief as I go through some of these notes. You should have a little flyer with my notes on it. So in case I don't hit everything, you should be able to get that through those note sheets.

Looks like this. It should be in your packet. But I also have them up on the spreadsheet, up on the, PowerPoint. So, the Georgia Department of Agriculture Marketing Division, one of our main goals in working with these food buying programs, I'm gonna go over two of them. It's the LFPA, the Local Food Procurement Assistance Program, and the Farmers to Food Bank programs.

Our number one goal is to make sure that these programs benefit Georgia farmers. That's making sure that Georgia farmers are being identified through this program and that we get a large variety of Georgia farmers and that they're selling a variety of products to the food banks as part of this. So, our main goal is to make sure that our food supply chains remain resilient, and that means connecting both the farmers and the food banks together and and making sure that, the farmers are able to sell into a wholesale supply chain like the food banks want them. I'll give you a quick overview of that LFPA program. It is a federally funded USDA program.

Unfortunately, 4,400,000.0 in purchases 4,400,000.0 in purchases from Georgia. It provides a reliable large volume purchases to help producers. So what's good about this program is we created contracts with producers so that producers could grow to that contract. Therefore, they were able to get into the wholesale supply chain knowing that they'll have a place to sell that product. So it was very beneficial to small and medium sized farmers as it started to grow.

Right? So, we are also able to provide a variety of product that the food banks don't typically get. These are some of the higher value higher value specialty crops, fruits, specialty crops like mushrooms, those sort of things to provide a value and a variety of products that food banks don't ordinarily get. So it was a very successful program, but it's losing its federal funding, and we don't really have a program to replace it. We did know that this was losing its funding, so we have been working with a lot of these producers to get into wholesale supply chains in other ways.

And one of the ways that they've been able to kinda transfer is moving to this farmers to food banks program. And I'll give you a quick overview of that. Again, this is a little bit different than LFPA because this money goes directly to the food banks to then be able to buy product directly from those producers as opposed to it going through a state program for purchasing. It does enable purchases to be made at an at a market or even an above market rate because the food banks are being provided funding for this. So it does give that special extra benefit to some of the farmers that are supplying the pro products, and it also allows for that higher value or specialty crop product to be able to be sold.

So it's uniquely beneficial to a lot of our Georgia producers. Just in the last fiscal year, we estimate, I can get you specific numbers and specific farms that sold into this program, but it's benefited over 40 farms, that we've been able to work with to make sure that they're in that, supply chain for the food banks. And so it's been a great program that, you know, we hope continues as part of the Georgia Department of Agriculture, but we will continue to support Georgia farmers to make sure that new beginning farmers, meet medium sized farmers are utilizing it to get into the wholesale supply chain and be able to sell a variety of products to food banks. If there's any questions.

Thank you, Matthew. I appreciate it. Two two great programs. Farmers to food bank program. I'm familiar with that.

Great program and, also a great entryway for farmers to to donate it if if the funding, runs out to, food banks. And so, thank you for for your expertise and work on that. Okay. Senator Kirkpatrick, welcome to the house ag committee. I know we're all juggling the schedules and, but I wanted wanted you to be here, committee, to hear, your s b 33, and I think we have a sub.

We heard this last year in this committee, so I think this committee is somewhat familiar. Although last year seems to be a long way from now, at least for me to recall. So I'd love for you to give an update and talk about yourself, with this, with this bill. So, the mic's yours and, welcome.

Thank you, mister chair. I appreciate the opportunity to be in front of you all this early in the session, although it feels much later than it actually is, at least on our side. We just finished voting, so sorry to be running a little behind. And I do have to chair my children and families committee meeting at 02:00. So, I appreciate the cooperation on the schedule.

And we have to vacate this room at 02:00 as well. So you Okay. We've got twenty five minutes. So take your time, whatever you want. This is for you.

The sub you should have is LC443288S. Is that what you got? Okay. So this should look is that not what you have? Yeah.

88S.

88S.

82

3288 is what I've been

well, I was delivered my office was delivered last week, thirty three eight two s. Mhmm. Kimberly, is that what you

Mhmm. That's yeah. This is the

This is what Anna This is like has the 1282S.

Yeah. And that's what, legislative council has.

Three eight two s.

Yes.

Okay. Well, I doubt it's much different, but I probably need a copy of that one.

Somebody get her take her a copy.

Got it here.

Okay.

Let me go back to, talking about the bill and what I'm trying to do here. This should look very familiar to most of you as you heard this bill last year near the end of the session, and we kind of ran out of time. It's very sciency and, I think there was some concern about moving it forward at that time. So the motivation for the bill was research that shows that dangers of certain hemp products like delta eight that are in our local gas stations, vape shops, convenience stores, and so on. Many of these products are coming from outside, not only outside the state but outside of the country, and they're not really regulated in any way shape or form.

So the FDA has written a lot of warning letters to different companies about the products, and we know that people are getting sick from these products, including people in Georgia. Delta eight is only one of many compounds that can cause harm. Some are found in quantities, trace quantities in the plant and then are enhanced chemically by, more of a synthetic type process, and then some of them are purely synthetic products. I'll mention that I have worked with the Department of Agriculture throughout ever since we started talking about this. And in fact, I believe I didn't bring it with me, but the sheriff's association wrote a letter supporting the bill last year as it was.

Since we left here last year, something big changed at the federal level, and that is that in November 2025, Congress passed restrictions on hemp products, including Delta eight, by banning most intoxicating hemp products with a concentration of greater than point 3% on dry weight basis, effective in November. This provides federal law enforcement the ability to police this area. However, until we address this at the state level, our state law enforcement, including the Department of Agriculture's law enforcement, are limited in their ability to enforce. This substitute mirrors the federal law in order to protect our citizens. 13 states have already banned Delta 83 more have restricted it.

Other states have pending legislation. I'm happy to go line by line or I can do that at another time. Department of Agriculture, government affairs folks are not in town today. So, they're they're watching, but not here to testify. And, with that, just tell me how much detail you'd like today.

Well, I'll open it up. I think you went through that pretty accurately, as far as I know. And and and you mentioned that, Department of Ag, they they are presently in a regulatory role of, of, of looking at these THC products or these CBD products or whatever you wanna call them, in a limited way. Their their budget is is up, but they've they are for the committee, they are attempting and starting to, to to regulate, under our present, regulations now. But, anyway, we'll let them talk about that next week at, in our next hearing.

But, I'll I'm gonna take some questions from, representative Carter.

Thank you, chairman. Thank you, senator. I was trying to remember last year, and, I remembering that the, I think she's the executive director for, ag when we were having some discussion about t h c nine and eight that she mentioned that she didn't want us to kinda do a lot of regulation and to kinda come back, but there were there was gonna be a study committee. So are we is is any of this field that we're addressing now part of, I guess, whatever work that went on over the recess? Or is this are we starting with a totally different set

of coverage? This is essentially the same bill that you looked at last year, except that we made it match the action that the federal government it wasn't a study committee exactly. I think it was a blue ribbon

Yeah. Blue ribbon or something. Committee that, chairman Martin Newton, and it was both medical marijuana, changes to to that legislation as well as, what, senator Kip after here is with thirty three trying to trying to, run-in him, or to discuss rent him. And, I was on that committee, and I don't know, representative Cox. We did not come and publish a finding.

Am I correct for that? So we did four or five meetings, discussing both both areas and and really did not come to any kind of, conclusion as far as I know, report. Excuse me. That would be more accurate. We did not publish a report.

That's my understanding. Okay. Thank you.

Do we have any other questions from from the senator? Okay. Well, thank you.

I'm happy

to talk to you.

And, anybody can contact me, send me any other questions that you might have from the committee.

And Well, thank you. I know you worked on this for a couple years, and, there's a lot of concern out there on on what, the public is purchasing in in these establishments, wanting to know, you know, the quality and and strength and that sort of thing. So, we'll leave it there. We we've got plenty of, people who won't testify. We will have another hearing next Wednesday, if things don't change, the regular meeting time for this committee at, 08:00 on on Wednesday mornings, and go into further detail with people wanting to speak and, have you back, if you can at that time.

I do have one other question. Representative Taylor.

Thank you, mister chairman. For clarity, we are on the right bill, not the one because she's naming another LC number.

The the the no. We're we're we're working off 82 s. Okay. She'll we'll have to if she wants 88 into the, submitted, we'll we'll take that Okay.

Later. I have a feeling that there may be a few more changes, and so there will probably be a different LC number the next time you hear the bill.

Okay. Thank you. Okay. Thank you.

Thank you.

Okay. We've got fifteen minutes, and, we can start going down this list. I apologize if we don't get everyone, and I apologize if if we can't spend enough time. But we'll start and get a flavor, for what y'all wanna tell me. Why don't we keep it to a couple of minutes so everybody can try to, say, what they need?

First on sign up list is, Aaron Jameres. If you could come to the podium, Mike, and, and tell the committee a little bit your thoughts on the s b 33.

Alright. Thank you for having us. So my thoughts are that I would request for it to be tabled. I think that there's a lot of confusion about the bill as it currently stands, as well as the lack of a report from the Blue Ribbon Study Committee. It would be nice to have taken the findings from that into account in a bill like this.

In addition to what's happening at the federal level, the federal landscape is still up in the air. There's moratoriums that are trying to be passed. There's other things that are working at that level. So with everything so up in the air about this, I would request that it be tabled. In addition to the fact that the regulatory concerns about Delta eight THC are pretty unfounded considering that four ninety four went into effect going on two years ago and, it covers all consumable hemp products.

It covers an age limit, that you have to be. It sorry. It covers an age limit for consumable hemp products. It covers full panel COA testing. So most of the regulatory concerns were covered by that.

This would only serve as a restriction of delta eight THC. And again, with everything being so up in the air, I would request that this be tabled. Thank you.

Thank you for those comments and, I hope you're not surprised things stay in the air up in Washington, DC. As well as well as around this place sometimes. Thank you for those comments. Alan Hart from US Hemp Roundtable.

Hello, chairman. Hello, Esteem

straight up. So you're pretty tall. There you go.

Is that better? Yeah. Can y'all hear me? Yes. I can speak up a little bit too if it catches it a little bit better.

Hi.

My name is Alan Hart. I'm a Georgian. I'm a business owner, and I'm a user. I'm a person who uses cannabis on a regular basis, both for personal reasons and for business reasons. What I stand up before you to urge is for you to vote no on s b 33.

While I believe that the intent behind the bill is is an admirable one, but making this safe for human beings is not what this bill is actually intended to do. This bill is intended to hit a sledgehammer on an industry that has become very strong in the state of Georgia, providing over $150,000,000 in tax revenue in 2024 alone according to the UGA economic impact study of that same year. What this bill does is this bill basically makes it impossible for companies like mine to do business in the state of Georgia. It's not going to actually protect anybody either. What we're doing is we are killing businesses that protect us from things that happen in a black market, in in illicit market.

First of all,

I have spoken to other Georgia hemp business owners like myself. Entrepreneurs who have invested their life savings in this state like I have. S b thirty three, alongside its counterpart, s b two fifty four, alongside, could render our products unsellable, destroying thousands of jobs, and shutting down local businesses that operate entirely and come in compliance with current law. Number two, you hurt patient access. This is not about recreational products.

Many Georgians are high concentration CBD products, which inherently contain trace levels of other cannabinoids to manage chronic pain, epilepsy, and anxiety. By capping total THC at a draconian 0.3 across all forms, you are limiting their access to therapeutic options, forcing them to buy either more expensive, less effective products, or go to the unregulated black market. The regulate don't prohibit argument. We should be focusing on smart regulation requiring testing, banning contaminants, and in for and enforcing age restrictions rather than a total ban through restrictive limits. And we've seen in other states, if you make it impossible for legal responsible businesses to operate, then consumers do not stop consuming.

They simply buy from the black market where there is zero safety testing, zero tax revenue, and more work for our law enforcement agents. What does this bill do? We don't really know. I believe it's it's it's been said by, our governor in the passing of s b four ninety four that we're protecting children. Unfortunately, this doesn't protect children.

This makes children less safe because the state is not regulating products. Instead, it's going into the black market. Also, this does not protect children because, sorry. Let me, let me state as far as on the national level. Rand Paul stated that we are facing here what we are facing here is not another policy adjustment.

This is an attempt to criminalize an entire legal sector by changing definitions, not through open debate, but through a backdoor process. Thank you. Just say no to truly find federal and misinformation. Say no to the illicit markets and say no. Vote no on s p 33.

Thank you for that testimony. Next, I'd like to call Jeff Breedlove with Georgia Council for Recovery. Thank you, mister chairman. If If it please

the committee, I am Jeff Breedlove with the Georgia Council for Recovery. More importantly than that, I'm a person in long term recovery from addiction. So I'm a person who can speak to you from lived experience. From Georgia, I live in Grant Park. I was act in active addiction all over our state, from Savannah to Atlanta.

I used to work down here, and I I know that you understand more than I do, that you're gonna hear from three or four types of people on this bill. One, people that will advocate for the victims, the the the reality of the intended and unintended consequences of these products. Two, you're gonna hear from people that just generally believe the product is harmless and it's okay, and they should be able to do what they wanna do. You're also gonna hear from some greedy people, people who want to profit off of your constituents, and they frankly don't care. And they will mislead you.

They will talk to you about black markets. Well, they're white collar drug dealers. That's what they are. There's people in your districts today that say it is easier to get a better high walking into one of these stores because of the THC content. And you won't arrest them for doing it.

And what does it cost? Who says that? Some of the over 900,000 Georgians who have survived your products. Now you have to make a choice at the end of the day. No one in senate bill 33, certainly not the good senator, is asking you to full prohibition.

But we are saying that THC levels cause medical consequences in your hospitals. Psychosis paralysis. Some people die and some people are are are handicapped for life. $150,000,000 coming into the state will take him at face value. But talk to your sheriffs about their budgets because of THC.

Talk to your hospitals about their budgets because of the THC. Talk to, your your coroners. Talk to your GBI. It's costing the state and the taxpayers at the local, county, and state level far more money in that in the medical consequences. So should we halt this?

No. Should we ban the product on the other extreme? That's not what this pill does. But is it reasonable for us to look at the science behind what's happening when people get sick from higher and higher levels of THC. Make a choice between no limits or reasonable limits.

But at least don't buy into the lie that the level of THC just doesn't matter. Because I can take you to any cemetery in your district you wanna go, and I'll get a mama and daddy to tell you that it does. Stand up for the victims of this and not the people profiting for it. Thank you for your consideration, mister chairman.

Thank you. Thank you for, that testimony. We got five minutes left. I'd like to call, Mike Griffin, to the podium, if you would. You're signed up here.

And, keep it short, Mike. Just let me

Thank you. My name is Mike Griffin. I'm a public affairs representative of the Georgia Baptist Mission Board, and we do support senator Kirkpatrick and s b 33. Georgia Baptist just recently passed a resolution on making sure that we limit the use of marijuana and hemp in our state. And, you know, we represent, 1,400,000 Georgians up to 3,400 churches, and we think it's very important that we have, greater restrictions, dealing with especially these hemp products.

We think that one of the greatest evidence of loving God and loving your neighbor is caring about public health and safety. And while it's true that we may disagree on the use of certain substances, We must all agree that protecting others from negative outcomes is very important. We believe that Georgia should limit the total amount of THC and other intoxicating, cannabinoids, in consumable hemp products. We also agree that Georgia should make sure that they close the loophole loophole in Georgia that allows products with dangerously high levels of hemp deprived THC, such as delta eight, to be sold or to give in to anyone, of any age. We do agree that we should, mirror the the federal, change that is coming as well here in our state.

And so we have to realize that the lack of responsible regulations on these types of products can result, basically, in a de facto form of recreational marijuana. And so I've testified a number of times on these different moral and social issues, whether it's alcohol or hemp or whatever, marijuana. We got that realized that avail availability equals sales, sales equals consumption, and consumption equals potential problems. Now there's a reason why they call seven elevens convenience stores because they're you can get in there quick and you can get it. And the more convenient we make some of these social moral vices that we have out here, it creates a greater destruction.

And we do think there needs to be greater regulation, and we need to be focused on a public health and safety issue on this issue. So thank you, mister chairman.

Thank you, mister Griffin. Appreciate that testimony. We got time for one more person and, Aveda. Scribble, you and Scribbles ready? I don't wanna I don't wanna get away from here without, hearing what your thoughts are on s v 33.

That's what I said. Against. It scribbles for or against.

I have a very interesting perspective, of course. Thank you so much for having me. The only reason why I'm here is because he begged me because, actually, representative Cannon asked him to come. Yeah. That's why I'm here.

And I love the ad committee because I'm a small farm boy. I'm not a big farm guy. I I actually testified in health and it was not so fun, but I'm here today to say my favorite kid's story is about the wind and the sun. Do you know that one? You try to get the congressman to take off his jacket and the wind made a bet with the sun and the wind said I could do it better than you and he blew and blew and blew but the congressman kept his jacket on and then the sun came out and lo and behold it was hot so he took it off.

This is like Kay's bill. She's trying to blow all these things away really hard and really trying hard when where is the sun? What would the sun be? Does anyone know?

Alright. We're out of time. Microgreens. We are. If if the half

ban go is like federal,

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the hot mango

is like federal, we would have microgreens,

like fudge and real

flowers. Thank you so much.

Thank you. Committee, don't forget the air commissary council reception this afternoon and breakfast in the morning. You have a great, rest of the day. Thank you.