Committees of Council Meeting
Video Transcript
Duration: 69 minutes
Speakers: 10
Alright.
Good afternoon,
and welcome to Roswell mayor and and council committee meeting for 09/23/2025
here in the city of Roswell. I'll begin by acknowledging the elected body present. Mayor Kurt Wilson,
council member Sarah Beeson,
Council member Christine Hall,
Council member G. Lee Hills,
Council member David Johnson,
Council member Will Moreland
and Council member Alan Sells.
I'm Sharon Izzo, deputy city administrator and senior vice president for infrastructure, and I am joined by assistant city attorney Joe Cusack
and deputy clerk Michelle Miller.
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The first item on the agenda is the approval of the committee meeting minutes from 09/09/2025.
I'll entertain a motion.
Motion by council member
Beeson.
Second by council member Hills. Any further questions?
Seeing none, all in favor?
Thank you.
Moving to the regular agenda.
Item number two,
notification
of award of a contract to Gradeco Incorporated for the Roswell area park pond rehabilitation
project in an amount of $1,981,825.60
and a project budget authorization
of $2,628,125
Presented by Brian Wilson, director,
Brian Watson.
Okay.
Okay.
Beach Boy. He's up to Beach Boy. I called you a council member last time. I actually No. My favorite Beach Boy,
Brian Watson, director of environmental public works.
Wow. Mister Watson. My brother is across the way here. Good boy. Alright.
So to get started, a few months ago, we started the procurement process,
to award the construction contract for upgrades to the Roswell Area Park Pond,
which is one of the twenty twenty two voter approved,
bond projects.
Well, a few weeks ago, our staff observed some safety concerns,
across the embankment
and therefore, we needed to engage a contractor immediately.
Therefore, I'm coming to you tonight to provide an overall status update of the project,
and to kind of march you through kind of the schedule that we have moving forward.
But before I get started into the presentation, I would like to introduce a couple of staff that
one you've met, one you may have not met, they're kind of sitting in the row over here. First, Corinne Valentine, she is our new CIP,
Manager, but she's also Deputy Director. So she's joined us. She's been here about two months now.
And at some point, she'll be able to do all these presentations for CIP. So welcome. And well,
she's yeah. It's going to be better.
But then Erica Ko, who's next to her, she's been the project manager for this project
and actually has been instrumental in getting us to where we are today.
And as we go into construction, she will be the PM through construction. So
pond,
the
best that we can date, this pond actually was built in the 1950s.
It's what we would traditionally call an agricultural pond. So basically
somebody back in the 50s basically
moved a whole bunch of dirt to create a pond to basically handle all their agricultural
there's a map there from 1956
that shows a small little remnant or small
beginning,
if you will, of what it's today, the pond is today.
It's important to note the city has no design information on the pond or the embankment
that made it very challenging as we were going through the design process, and making sure that we knew what we were dealing with.
It also provides no stormwater benefit. And I'll get to that why that's kind of important as we move forward.
So in the 1980s, there were some limited dredging that was done. Basically a backhoe got as close as it could to the edge and just kind of dredged as much material that they could get out. But really a major dredging operation has not been done on the pond.
And then in the 1990s, a modular block wall, which most of you probably know was added around the perimeter of the pond and that was actually done by in house staff,
so back in the 80s
and it's sorry, back in the 90s.
Well, when
the project was approved
in 2022
for the through the bonds, there was three main components that were identified.
The first was that there was some issues on the embankment.
And here's three
images showing the embankment, which you can see.
Here's the embankment, here's the pond. There's a whole bunch of trees here and there's a whole bunch of trees that are on the embankment and they should not be. And over the past fifty, sixty years, those trees have actually caused some of the safety concerns that we're seeing right
now.
At the bottom here, you see a little stream of water that's not coming out of the pipe as it should, that is actually coming out of the embankment itself right now. So it is it is an embankment that's in active failure mode is what we would call it. And actually last Monday on the fifteenth, we actually closed the embankment to the public for safety concerns.
Another one of the items that was identified for the pond was to replace or improve the retaining wall or the modular block wall that surrounds the perimeter.
Here are some different pictures around the pond of where you can see the modular blocks are falling in, caving in, some of them have actually been taken.
So
part of the project is actually to improve
the wall.
And then the third item that was directly identified was actually dredging the pond. Actually, instead of just getting a backhoe that's as close as it can get,
how much material can we actually take out of the pond and actually improve it for water quality and for Habitat.
So those three items together was what really got the project on the voter approved list. And so back in
mid-twenty
twenty three,
CIP, EPW and Rec and Parks actually began to develop what is going to be the scope of the project and how are we actually going to design
the improvements, the updates to the pond.
Multiple design iterations,
very collaborative between Environmental Public Works as well as,
Rec and Parks to make sure that
some would call it the jewel of Roswell Area Park to make sure that the pond is actually going to be a beautiful,
pond going
into the future.
We received all the permits,
so we needed a permit with the core. We also needed obviously the land disturbance permit.
And what's also is planning for this project several years ago, we actually had already obtained a stream buffer variance through the state. So we're very prepared
with this project as we started putting it out to procurement.
Just to kind of show you some of the elements that are going to be improved on the pond,
just to note,
the embankment rehabilitation is the primary one. That's where we're seeing the safety concerns,
probably the largest single cost element of the project.
We're going to improve fish habitat as well as wildlife habitat for the pond.
We're adding, improving the wall that's along the west side
and we're going to remove the wall that's along the east side and actually have a gentle
slope so that there's easier access for the public to actually get to the pond. So to make it much more, of engagement
for the public.
The 911 Memorial, we've heard a lot, you know, are we going to be doing anything there? We're not doing anything to that, the memorial. The only thing that we're doing is replacing
the modular block wall that's falling in with a new wall that's going to be in front of
it.
Just some renderings that we put together to kind of give you an idea of what it's going to look like. One of the big things that you might notice is there used to be a finger
that came out here. We're actually removing that finger.
Got a lot of feedback that this is actually a better design and the public that we had spoken with actually said that they like this this quite a bit more.
Then here's a kind of an image looking from the Southwest corner up towards the Northeast corner. The embankment is off here on the right,
and there will be quite a bit of plantings that we're putting back for the project.
Just so that we can put it out there, some aspects of the construction that are important to know, 104 trees will be removed, but it's very important to know that 57 of those trees are on the embankment. They should not be there.
Those trees are causing, like I said before, they're causing the safety concerns that we're seeing.
So they would need to be removed anyway.
There are 47 trees along the walking path and some of the trails
that are going to be taken down. Some of those are just old trees.
None of these are specimen trees. They're all just trees that have grown up over the years. So, they will be removed.
As of right now, and we have not finalized landscaping plan, but at least 30 trees will be replanted.
The reason we have not finalized it is because of the safety concerns. We kind of had to move into making sure that we would stabilize the pond. We kind of put a hold on the landscaping plan so that we could actually get our contractor in place and we will actually be working on that landscaping plan over the next couple of months.
Also all trees and plantings will be 100% native.
We've been asked that question. So it will be everything
there won't be any
outside plantings that are coming in.
One aspect of this project that's important to know, we've been asked about the wildlife, the fish, the duck
or ducks depending on what time of the year, the snakes, the turtles,
there is a wildlife relocation
the
contractor is fully aware they have on their contractor is Aquatic
Environmental Services. They,
that second
bullet there, as we were going through design, we actually made sure that we consulted with UGA, the extension of the state, to make sure what is the the best way that we can take the wildlife,
relocate it to a different area, do the construction, and then bring the wildlife back. So that's a big part of this project. And it was,
we made it very apparent during the pre construction meeting,
pre proposal meeting, sorry, with all the contractors.
One thing that I mentioned before is the pond actually provided
currently provides very little benefit.
One of the things as we were going through design, what we noticed is that with very minimal effort and very little design improvements,
we can actually turn this pond into a regional stormwater detention facility. And this is a this is a great thing for the city. So there's 52 acres that drain to this pond,
and there's actually enough capacity once this is constructed that it will be able to provide detention
and water quality credits to any development
that is occurring in this 52 acres.
The reason that's a benefit is because we're trying to look forward into the future, take care of the stormwater needs that will be coming up. And just as a note,
RDOT is actually working on the Woodstock Multi Use Trail right now, and there were some stormwater credits that they needed to obtain, and they were actually able to use. They're actually buying into, if you will, the credits that we're going to have set aside for them in this project. So this is a great story that was, again, very little money,
and
a blessing
by city,
senior staff that we were able to do this. So we're converting the pond to just
a normal pond that doesn't actually the water level doesn't change. There will be a little bit of water level change, but it's provided a big benefit to the citizens,
the residents, sorry.
Okay.
This is an important part. So I wanted to take you through the procurement process and the budget process, because as I mentioned to start with, we were actually going through the procurement process
when we had the issues that became a safety concern.
So we actually posted this solicitation in early July and
the one bid that we got came back at the July.
We
reviewed the proposal
and our team
deemed that contractor they're a good contractor,
but not qualified in earthen embankment rehabilitation.
And that's a critical part of this project. So,
we were getting the process of actually putting this back out to bid and that's when we started noticing some concerns.
We did a geotechnical evaluation in July or sorry, June
2025.
We had staff that, from wreck and parks as well as stormwater go out each and every day to check the pond and make sure that there were no,
that we weren't seeing a change in the embankment.
And we got into,
basically the September,
we said, there's an issue,
we don't have time to put this out to bid, we need to close the walkway now and we need to get the contractor on board.
So what we did is we actually reached out to all of the contractors who attended the pre bid meeting and asked,
hey, would you be interested
in actually bidding on this project,
and asked why they some of them didn't
bid on the project to begin with. And
one of them said that they would have bid on it, but they were just too busy at the time.
They're not busy now, and they just happen to be one of our on call contractors, and they do great work for the city. City. So we engaged in negotiations with them, worked through a process, and
not only do they have they do a lot of good work for the city, but they have extensive experience in earthen embankment rehabilitation,
again, a primary component of this project.
So we negotiated the project cost with Graco
and that's the $1,981,000
which is right at our budget. So we were excited about that.
The total budget for construction is $2,600,000
dollars That's the $1,900,000
for construction. There is construction admin and materials testing.
And we do have a large contingency on this project.
The reason for that is,
in my experience of dealing with earthen embankment, once you start
digging out the bad stuff, it's
like having
a cavity in your mouth. You never know what the dentist is going to find and you keep digging and you keep digging until you get to where it's good material.
And because this is a very old pond, we don't know once we start digging what we're going to find. Hopefully, we don't have to use any or all of that contingency, but it is very good to have it. And that's
we like to have between 2530%
contingency on projects like this just because of the unknowns. So
that is accounted for.
Here's the schedule.
And the fifteenth of this month is that's when we closed off the embankment to pedestrians
next week. There's going to be communications going out this week, but next week, we're actually going to put fencing around the project.
And, at the end of the week, we'll start dewatering the pond,
and start,
the wildlife relocation.
And then we'll start construction shortly after that.
With that, I will take any questions that you all have.
So that's a lot of information. Sorry.
This is probably going to be a silly sounding question. Can you go back to the rendering
of the project itself with the embankment?
This one or Yes. That one. Okay. Just given the amount of vegetation that's added, which is great, is there still gonna be a line of visibility from those walk paths on the far right side of the property?
Visibility
through the path or visibility across the pond? Pond? Visibility to the pond. Like, people go there to look at the pond. Yes. Visibility. Yeah. This is a this is an overhead. So the coverage, yes. Okay. Most of that's ground cover. There's some trees in there, but, yes, you will still be able to see the pond. The pond from the walkway. And then,
given that there's currently,
like, swings and benches over in that area, are those going to be maintained there as well, or are we gonna replace them? That's a great question.
There's all of the equipment will be removed during construction and then be put back and Rec and Parks is working if it's going to be the exact same location or if they make minor modifications. But all of the equipment will still be back there. So we'll still maintain seating in that path? Correct. Okay. Just because from the aerial view, it looks like you've completely obviously not you, but, that it's bisected from the pond.
I I know a lot of folks go there because they wanna walk and stare at the pond. I know when I was pregnant with both my kids, that was my hobby. And then all the way back to middle school, I used to go sit I still do. I go sit in those swings and sit at the pond and read. So I don't want my my walk in or my reading spot taken. Yeah. What I mean with this is it's the landscape plan that we still need to work through, and it's just again,
need to get the contractor on board. In fact, the contractor is already kind of working.
We did have to declare an emergency. Yeah. I get that. And this was the first meeting that we could come to to notify you all. I can temporarily relocate my walking and my reading for the the safety of all, but thank you. I appreciate the clarification.
Council member Hall.
Just a quick question.
You had mentioned that this the water level is going to be different.
Yes, ma'am. Is it going to be lower or higher? It'll be a little bit lower, and it'll fluctuate a little bit more than it does now. And that's to account for the stormwater
management that we're adding into the pond. That's right. Because right now, it doesn't provide any What kind of depth is it gonna have?
I have to get my phone in front of it. Is it six inches? Six We're lowering it by half a foot.
Lowering it about a foot. Apologize. So lowering it about a foot. So it'd about be a foot variation.
And and how deep is it? Just curious.
I will say this. So that so let's go back to that's a
The the wildlife will be happy going back is is my is that my Wildlife will be much happier. Well, let let me get back to that question, but I'm trying to find. So on the edges right now,
the basically, the dredged material comes right up to the bottom of the wall. Most of that's gonna go on. So right at the once you get to the pond, you're gonna have several feet already.
In terms of wildlife loving this more let me go back.
Now you're getting me geeked out, which is great.
Imagine that. Yeah. Sorry. So one of the things that we're adding here, and this is more of a stormwater feature, but at the top part of the pond in both,
there's there's, streams that come
in the on these two entrances up here. We're gonna add four bays, which is gonna basically collect,
sediment going forward, and that's where we're gonna be able to maintain sediment coming into the pond.
But there's also going to be water that's going to be going over a weir, which will start to help aerate the pond and will add actually oxygen to the water.
So the the fish are going to love that. The wildlife is going to love it. We're also doing various things that different fish habitats throughout the pond that are actually going
to increase,
fish happiness.
Thank you.
That's a much better way of saying it. Do we have a measure for that? Yes. So, yes.
Thank you.
As long as the wildlife is happy.
The the wild I I think they will be very happy. Plus, they won't have to deal with all the the
I mean, just look at that. They can breathe. They'll be able to breathe. Yeah.
I get
it. Council member Sells. Thank you. Thank you,
mister Watson. Good job as always. We will miss you and Yeah. Replace them. I think you won't. It'll be much better. But Hey. Just a couple of things. I'm I'm happy for the wildlife, but also,
happy for the economic development. And what you talked about specifically,
I think what she was trying to get at is the capacity. The capacity of the whole thing is
substantially improved. So the water level change is due to
providing for that
that extra foot, as it were, to cover the 52 acres. Yes, sir. What would what does it cover right now? Is it 10 acres? Do you have any idea? Cover right now? Yeah. It it doesn't even cover
Itself? The cover itself. I mean, there is there is very, very little,
negligible, essentially. So this will cover
all of the storm like, the pond is not a stormwater pond right now. Right. It will be it will still be the Roswellerie Park Pond, but unbeknownst to people, it will provide a stormwater benefit
not just to Roswellerie Park, not to just Crabapple Middle School, which is just on the north, but to the 52 acres that are draining to it. Okay. Yes.
And and stormwater issues in total, I mean, when, mayor Wood dug this in 1950,
there was no such thing as stormwater issues. Is that correct? That is correct. Okay. And This was an agricultural pond that a park developed around it, and it's it's in it's failing.
Right. Right. And this provides us the opportunity for the things that we need to do around that whole area. Any other economic development, any other,
I mean, quite frankly, as you described and,
council member Beeson mentioned about the the the swings and those kind this is a great amenity.
Imagine a retention pond being a great amenity in a park. What what a concept.
So that's what we're doing other places as well as we're providing for
economic growth by improving
just to put all this in context, this is part of our strategy. And this particular one, although we're speeding the project up, it isn't a new project or a new priority. It's just simply that we have new facts. Is that correct? That the failure is a new fact. The plan was always to go through with procurement.
But until the safety concern,
you know, as an engineer, we noticed it. America's is an engineer, we it's our duty to say, we have to do something now. So we had to engage, call it an emergency. But we were so close to having everything through the formal process.
So, yeah, we just had to speed it up a little bit. Right. Okay. And then calling it an emergency
was simply I mean, it's a statement of fact first and foremost. Right. But we were already in place to do the work and to get this project underway, which is really amazing. So thank you. Very good good work.
Council member Northland.
This, this goes back to
when we first started about three point five, four years ago as being one of the main things that that was on our radar.
And and from memory, it seems like year after year after year, we were doing fixes to the rusted out pipe that is part of this this process. Yes, sir. And we were spending money year after year after year to go in there and fix the rusting pipe that was failing, that was draining the water. And
I understand
the, what you said earlier about the trees being on the embankment is a big problem, but the rusting pipe also is a problem, and that's getting addressed through this process as well. Absolutely. Yeah. In this figure here, the outlet control structure is this little square concrete box,
that will be replacing the old corrugated metal. Actually, it's
a corrugated metal pipe with metal inside the pipe that's been filled with
concrete
as we can to fill the holes.
And there it's constantly leaking.
So that is one of the issues that we have right now upon.
Councilmember Hells. Yes. Thank you. What's the estimated time for this being wrapped up and ready to go and finished?
So substantial completion at the end of summer. Okay. Thank you. I missed that. Thank you.
It's member Johnson. I might have misheard, but I think in our three zero three councilwoman beast and said he'll take any of the snakes and he'll have house them. Yeah.
I will house the dust.
I will house the little fish. I am not housing snakes.
Any further comments?
K.
Seeing none,
we'll entertain a motion.
This is a information item. Oh, no motion on this. Information item only.
Thank you, mister Watson.
Well Alright. I mean, it can, but No. We'll, we'll keep moving.
Great job, Brian. Thank you, sir. Thank you, pal.
Alright. Moving to to item number three, consideration to award a contract to Reeves Young for the construction
of the e nine one one call center in the amount of $3,900,000
and a project budget authorization
of $4,690,000
presented by Mr. Brian Watson,
director of Environmental Public Works. Mr. Watson.
Thank you, Ms. Isa. So,
although the last item was very exciting, this is also a very, very exciting item,
especially for CIP and for the city.
Tonight, we are bringing forth the approval of the construction contract for the 911 call center.
Excluding the fire stations,
this project, along with the other ongoing construction projects at the summit, will make up the remaining element of all the public safety buildings that are identified in the 2022
voter approved bonds.
The city's, e nine one one is scheduled to be relocated
to,
11261
Alpharetta
Highway, which is formerly known as Sharpshooters.
On the property there is one building which was previously or which previously contained a retail shop and it has an active shooting range right now.
The building was constructed in 2011
and is approximately 18,300
square feet.
The city intends to keep the gun range operational as we're going through construction and also to continue to use the gun range,
after that.
The city had previously selected Reeves Young to be the city's construction manager at risk or the CMAR.
Reeves Young has been a terrific partner and has been working with the city staff as well as our design team, S. C. Gaybelle,
over the past several months to optimize the design as well as,
optimize the design and the bond dollars for this project. It's been a big effort probably over the last six to twelve months.
Now that we have a design that meets all the city's criteria, as well as a construction price that's within the budget, we're now recommending the award of the construction contract.
Staff is seeking to a contract award to Reeves Young in a total amount not to exceed $3,900,000
This does include the general requirements, contractors fees, bonds, as well as the construction costs.
We're also recommending allocating $390,000
in unforeseen circumstances that may arise during the construction.
We're also recommending $400,000
for construction admin, construction materials
testing and probably the larger item is the fencing. We still need to put fencing up that is going to go around, have not finalized that yet, but wanted to make sure that this was all allocated
now.
I also want to mention that we could not have gotten this project done without our incredible CIP team, Josh Pape, who is not here, he's on vacation, well deserved.
Lily Joy Tothrow and Corinne Valentine,
as well as Sharon Izzo,
our CIP team has been working hard at this for the past couple of years.
It's just really exciting to be able to bring it to you tonight. So with that, I'll take any questions that you all might have.
Thank you, Mr. Watson.
Questions? Council Member Hall,
what's the timeline on it from when construction starts to when it'll be occupied?
Construction
I'll say this. It will
be occupied
03/31/2026.
Wow. That's great.
Any further questions?
Yeah. Council member You probably
have a few comments about this because this is such a big deal. I would like you to speak to just a couple of things.
Would you, would you describe,
for the record how much fun it was moving a nine eleven center and and how that processes,
so
important to what we're trying to do to move the police headquarters in total. And just talk a little bit about how this all worked together with the budget and and the things that we
that we talked about the other day. Specifically, when we passed the bond, we weren't exactly sure what that would look like. And and
God in his infinite wisdom has blessed us with some great opportunities here, and and you guys have taken advantage of those. So let's talk about that a little bit. Yeah. It's a it's a good question.
The the funny response is, like,
I'm very happy for chief. Chief Conroy is here, very supportive of this project.
I hope that I never have to build a 911
call center again.
It is it is an incredibly
complex,
design,
and going into construction. I will say that, you know, when the city,
very fortunate to obtain sharpshooters at, I think, a very good price.
The thought was when we originally
purchased the property
probably had all of the structural elements
that were going to be needed for nine one one center.
It didn't quite have everything, but,
it was better than basically
a regular office building. It was actually very close to that. Just learning the structural requirements that are needed for
a building of this magnitude
was incredible.
But early, you know, shortly after the bonds were approved,
CIP was tasked with, basically, let's cost out originally there was going to be a Public Safety Complex.
And the Public Safety Complex was going to be in one area, one building,
police headquarters, fire headquarters and 911.
And so when we started pricing that out,
early estimates to build something like that were 40 to $60,000,000
is what we saw.
We had an opportunity when we were looking at Crabapple Middle School.
We thought wonder if we could convert Crabapple Middle School into
a public safety complex.
And when we did that, it was 52,000,000.
So, basically, what we were looking at to
actually build,
the the three main elements that were in the voter approved bonds, we're looking at somewhere between 40 and 60,000,000,
and I'd say probably 50 to 60,000,000 was probably a better estimate.
So, you know, the acquisition of sharpshooters was a was a huge improvement, a huge benefit to the city.
The city also had a big benefit of acquiring Summit at an incredible price, and and the mayor and the council, you've talked about this several several times, but basically to convert,
really good
office space into a public safety headquarters
for fire and for police,
save the city quite a bit of money. So just some numbers. I don't know if this is what you're asking,
you you had mentioned the other day that the requirement if 911 is in the building, would you speak to the I I apologize. Yeah. No. Yeah. Enough. That that I want I want you to keep going with what you were gonna say. Alright. No. It's there there's a lot behind this. That's why it's exciting.
When if nine so nine one one based on building code has to be up to, it's called category four standards, which means that, based on the natural disasters that occur in that area so if you're in the Midwest, it's gonna be, you know, tornadoes. If you're in the East Coast, you have to think about hurricanes and other natural disasters that would occur.
If a natural disaster occurs, that that building is still still self sustaining. So it's gotta be able to operate in any sort of natural disaster that occurs.
If that building or 911 is one of those, if it's in inside
any building, then that entire building has to become category four.
So that that's a big thing. So when we were looking at
actually building new,
we actually had okay. Let's build Public Safety Headquarters as one, and then let's do let's look at that on the inside, and then we actually pulled it outside.
Because it was
because it was outside, we didn't have to have the the main building, if you will, be category four.
So that kind of drove the decision, like, okay, we need to have 911 as a separate building.
So when we were looking at Crabapple Middle School,
lots of great space, but we were actually pulling nine one one outside
and having to we're gonna have to build a new building anyway because we're in category four.
So the,
that became
kind of became a driving force of why when sharpshooters came
on board, that to go from the category that it was, which was roughly two to three to a category four was was minimal and actually significantly
reduced in, cost as opposed to building a brand new building.
200,000
square feet versus 18,000 square feet. That's one. Well, and and what we're doing at Sharpshooters is we're actually,
again, geeking out a little bit. We're actually gonna divide the building in two. So we're actually able to build, basically a wall that's gonna separate the range from the the nine one one center,
and that wall is gonna go in so that nine one one, which will be on the front side,
will be category four. And the range, which is on the backside,
if it if it collapsed, which we don't want it to, but if it collapsed, it will not have any impact on 09:11.
Excellent. You were about to go through some numbers. Sorry. Yes. Which I would also enjoy.
David will go to sleep.
Just to kind of get,
high level
in if you look at I told you the $40,000,000 to $60,000,000
for evidence
for I'm sorry, for Summit, which is
police headquarters and fire headquarters
for the Evidence Building that's also going to have the Motor Barn,
the Cross
Fit, for the Sally Port. That's in addition to the the Summit Building for the
eventually, we'll have a canine,
building. We haven't gotten to that, but eventually, we'll have that
for,
$9.01 1
all in right now we're at $31,600,000
With everything. For everything.
But let's what are the benefits that we have with that, right? So that $31,600,000
we also have an additional building that we got out of it at Summit Building 200.
We also got a shooting range. Shooting range,
there's all sorts of numbers and I've talked extensively with
Chief Conroy.
Shooting range could go from anywhere from $5,000,000 to $20,000,000
so
with all of this
or higher, but it kind of depends on the level.
So
right now, just in getting a shooting range and additional building, you're looking at maybe $25,000,000
of extra
benefit to the city.
And,
based on our estimates, you're
anywhere from
20% to 40%
lower costs in all three of those versus
what we were originally looking at? Well, and in particular, the shooting range
and getting certified, the time and the travel distance
is baked into the budget. So we have a budget relieving
fact here because now the police can be,
they're shooting
two miles away instead of what was it? 40 miles, 50 miles? I think it's down about
an hour away. About an hour away.
Sure. Sure. Right. So, so that that's a big savings as well. That's not in these capital numbers, but certainly baked into our budgetary considerations.
Absolutely. And and I believe, chief, correct me if I'm wrong, but several years, chief was trying to get a
a junior engine every year, the cost just kept going up and up and up and getting
much, much higher. I think Sandy Springs is
looking at one and it's actually upwards higher than $20,000,000 right now.
So
$5,000,000 to $20,000,000 is probably very conservative
as an estimate of what the shooting range range would actually cost. Right. I think Jim's good. Gee, Sandy Springs starting point was 35,000,000
that got
dedicated, and they're still trying to find partners to
raise that up to a higher amount. That's just for the shooting range. Not the other things they're talking about, the shooting range. Correct. Just their shooting
range. The and the land they're building on, they already own the land. So that's important. So it's 35,000,000
for the structure,
and they're trying to find partners. That's
that's your gut for us. So we're getting revenue.
Yeah. That was that's next on my hit parade. Thank you, Christine.
But there's other things that are going on as well. Then you've mentioned the second building at Summit, which is the same size as that which we're using with the police and fire headquarters. I wanna say it's how big is that building? About 62,000 square feet. 62,000 square feet that's available for us to lease as a city or to move other services to and use it in other ways. It's an asset of the city that is certainly
boot collateral, as it were, in this transaction that we were fortunate enough to get. And then the last thing, of course, is is that now we have the opportunity to turn Hill Street, where I always point the wrong direction, wherever the heck it is. Yeah. Over there.
Into a million dollars a year of cash flow to the city,
because we are freeing that space up for redevelopment
as well as a ground lease as well as using the exact existing building. So, I mean, it's a this is a phenomenal
deal. And you guys you in particular, Brian, have worked so hard on this. I remember the the,
I guess I call it the fear in your eyes the first time we start talking about this,
about how much work this would be this would be. And and to pull this off and to get this to the stage is is by March 2026 is just stunning. And I really
I was I was his liaison until
he gave me up for
someone else. So,
but I I just wanna I wanna I wanna make sure we crow about how much work this group has done. They have really pulled something that the city should be incredibly proud of, and I I really appreciate that. Thank you very much.
This is a team effort. It's the entire CIP team. So thank you.
Any further questions?
I'm sure,
I mean, sure, Alan, you echo I I would like to echo your comments
because it's hard it's,
it's so astounding,
honestly.
It's hard to appreciate.
And I we don't
we don't do a good enough job of contrast and compare
because we're not Coca Cola marketing.
It's a little harder than digging a hole and building a dam in 1950.
That's for sure. Starting go back to we go back
to,
really November,
December
'22,
after the bond
passed and the public safety bond and the parks and rec bond.
What this team has done, Sharon, your team, Brian, your team,
the entire city management team has been phenomenal.
And, you know from your past experience in Sandy Springs. I mean, you know, like, the
usually
and understandably,
you want
you get a bond and people think it's free money. It's not. And you guys have treated this like you have been incredibly frugal
with this money. Like, you've this is it's just amazingly,
frugal,
and that's what we don't do. Like, we just contrast and compare
in terms of delivery of the
assets that you brought into play
really is remarkable.
Because $52,000,000
is a lot of money.
Unfortunately, it's not a lot of money in the real world when you start talking about building large capital assets.
A $137
per square foot is really kind of the replacement cost, and that's not talking about category four. It's like it's just Jim. Chief chief just said, like, really? Sandy Spring spent $35,000,000
on a structure,
and not including land. Now we own the land.
And just for a shooting range,
and,
Brian, no. Just you you left out the EOC.
Another component. You got five components here. You got a police. You got fire. You got nine one one. You got EOC, and you got a shooting range. And you're delivering all that for around $31,000,000.
And that includes all the odds and the ends and, like, that's, you know,
$8,000,000
acquisition costs on the Summit Building,
$5,700,000
all in to to get it basically uploaded in, you know, FFNE, bring it in. Same thing on the sharpshooters,
five seven, I think, to acquire it. Probably another, when you're all said and done, five to deliver it.
You guys have done just an absolutely astounding job
on really delivering with a limited amount of dollars and making them work. I think unlike most governments
like, most governments don't even think could conspire to do what you guys have done.
So, yeah, we don't Ellen, we don't celebrate this story enough.
One more. There's one more too. I mean, because this is all in the, you know, the the first
rule the first obligation of government is to protect its citizens.
And this has been a project that's been focused on that, and we have delivered. You you guys have delivered an enormous amount of value, but that's not it.
Also, with the light timing with the, the the fire,
I guess it was Panino that found that and, the
the the synchronization of the of the lights.
So that we Preemption. Preemption. Yeah. Preemption. Right. Right. So now we don't you know, whereas we thought we're gonna have to build a certain number of fire stations to achieve what public safety requirements
we were lacking, it's actually gonna be less than that now. And so $12,000,000
savings. And it's Yeah. And so the bond is going to be sufficient for us to do all of these important things that we set out to do, and that is really in in a time when costs were galloping away, by the way, construction costs have gone up 40%
since Oh, it's insane to your point. And one other thing, and, you know, chief Conroy
will point this out. Anybody's
been in any kind of logistics perspective in the military knows this.
The police pay more. You know why? Because in the government world, everybody knows it's public safety, and then there's a vendor system that basically forces an increased cost
model
on police and governments that have police. So you're working with this huge disadvantage.
The delivery of the it's I'm really glad you kinda just highlight the delivery of what this is what you guys have pulled off. Sharon
and Brian, really
outstanding.
I mean, and I hope I hope our I hope our fellow residents kinda get to know the story What a great job you guys have done. Yeah. Excellent.
I'll just oh, council member Johnson. There was one other point we were missing, the location of these buildings.
Right? We didn't talk about summit and the location where it's going and how that is going to you go back to the number one job of the city, which you're gonna notice a theme tonight of all the items is protecting its citizens.
And the first thing we're doing is we're putting that location where we get the highest 911 calls.
I mean, you know, what a genius.
Yeah. I don't know.
Thank you. Yeah. I mean, thank you.
Sorry. I was talking to Brian
in in Concord. Yeah.
No. I mean, you
know, immediately starts fighting crime right away. I mean,
so so you're you you got for $31,000,000,
you put the police in the best spot you can. You're saving you're you're decreasing your response times by over a minute. Right? And we're saving taxpayers,
I mean, just based on the math alone, $4,050,000,000
dollars right there. I mean Easy. Sharon, Brian, I I know everyone's singing your praises, but your praises deserve to be sung. So thank you for all that you've done.
And And and because of your the elected leadership being willing to make the decisions, the hard decisions, for example, some, it's a perfect example. You guys made the hard call.
You made the right call,
but you moved this into the center of the city. You moved your public safety head you moved your fire and police into the center of the city. By the way, arguably, let's call it ten, maybe fifteen minutes closer to the East side of the city, the side of the city that feels like it's been long ignored,
and you moved your police headquarters and your new fire headquarters. By the way, you moved police and fire together, which haven't been together. Another
thing. A lot of things you've done on this.
But while building
full time fire department. While building full time fire department. That's right. That's
gonna become the best fire department in The United States and creating the benchmarks to demonstrate improve that with real KPIs.
Lot of cool things going on to your point. Public safety is the first compact that people has with this government. David, you're exactly right.
I'll just speak for the whole team, and thank you for for recognizing
all the hard work.
There's a couple I'm gonna throw a couple more things out here for you. There was some incredible creativity
and ingenuity that went into attacking the nine one one
project.
One of the things we did, and we've never done it before,
we had one of our folks, Josh Pape, act as general contractor
as he pulled in different vendors and contractors to do most of the work on the second
mostly because we didn't want to fold it into that public safety,
that premium that you talk about. So we g c'd a project out of CIP, and Josh did a phenomenal job. Our IT department came in and ran cables and oversaw all of the IT
department came in and ran cables and oversaw
all of the IT work. It's all done. It's ready to go.
Our transportation team ran fiber for us on the public safety buildings at a huge discount compared to what we were looking at paying. So the entire city
has jumped in, put aside other work, made room,
and and done an incredible, incredible job to get these public safety buildings ready for you. And, I'd love I also wanna share that the chief is now he's got a new address.
He moved in last week together with his whole
yesterday
together with his whole team. So we are almost fully occupied
over at Summit. We still have some work to do on the First Floor for you, and it's gonna be tremendous.
And that will be done by the end of the year. But the entire city has has really, really,
put their best forward to make this happen, and, it's been absolutely tremendous.
So I I thank you guys for recognizing that,
truly do.
I gotta add one more thing. Sorry.
Chairman chairman,
Izzo.
And that is, you know, that, because economic development is my focus here,
we would not be able to be closing on Hill Street had you guys not
stepped along lively. I mean, that's that it was required for us to close that deal that all of these things be done, and everybody got behind that and realized that it had to be done for a great project for the city and got it done. So
so not only that. I mean, these benefits just continue to accrue that you guys have laid the groundwork for, and I really appreciate that.
One thing. Council member Hall.
And
this just wouldn't be possible without I mean, without the vision of the mayor. Thank you, mayor. But also without the leadership of our chief operating officer, Don Stevens.
I I'm just it makes me so happy to hear how the the city worked together, and we've been working on breaking down those silos. I mean, we've been a siloed city
for
fifty years, and nobody did anything about it until now, until this
organization came in three years ago.
And, I mean, these are this is the fruits of the labor. I mean, it it's real results with real dollars, and,
I mean, thank you. Thank you,
everybody,
from leadership
all the way all the way through the entire organization.
Any further
comments?
We did make it hard in the police.
That you guys they kinda came through a little bit themselves. Right? The police kinda kinda they kinda jumped through some hoops. You helped a little. You guys helped a little.
They really did. They mean they helped. They could come through.
Alright. Council member Hall.
Alright. So when's your open house? When you're getting when are you gonna invite everybody?
So I don't wanna steal Ryan.
I think the First Floor will be completed.
I think a a welcome meme would be great in the new year, like, once we get into the new year.
At least give us a little bit, So we moved
almost the entire police department.
Next week, our public facing services will be housed out of Summit. Yep. We will leave somebody here for a week just to direct people to the new location.
After that, we will only have
one property and evidence
at this facility, and then they don't have to call the safe anything.
So
the the Ground Floor, I think we're estimating
end of the year that the First Floor will be completed. That's the bulk of the work on
the work, the re the reconstruction
that was being done for
prisoners
and security.
So once that's completed, that would be going for granted.
And
our brothers and sisters from fire need to move in as well. So, that's slated around first quarter next year right after the first quarter is complete. So we want them in the building first.
Yes. Exactly.
Alright. Alright.
If there are no further comments, I'll entertain a motion.
Motion by council member Hills, second by council member Northland.
Any further discussion?
All in
favor.
It passes unanimously.
Thank you very much.
Okay. Item number four
consideration to advance the slowdown in Roswell initiative traffic calming policy presented by Greg Nicholas,
interim director of transportation.
Mr Nicholas.
Thank you, Miss Isa. Good evening.
Alright. So we are here to talk about slowdown in Roswell
initiative. This was this initiative
was one of the mayor's top initiative top priorities for 2025.
Some of the goals of this initiative are to improve the quality of life, make streets safer, particularly for pedestrians
and to slow down traffic
on local roads under city control.
And how we wanna do that, we do want to approach us with a phased approach. Tonight, we're going to primarily be talking about phase one. That is the neighborhood traffic calming matrix and the pilot program.
And then we will touch base briefly on, phase two,
which is a local road traffic calming matrix, and then phase three,
a sidewalk matrix evaluation.
Alright. So we'll get right into the
neighborhood traffic calming matrix.
We developed
five factors,
five weighted factors
and looked at the entire city. So we'll just kinda run through the factors and how you get the points and and what the weighting is.
So the number one factor is speeding.
Obviously, higher speeds are equal more risk in the neighborhoods,
and the points possible.
Basically, if you're if you're going the speed limit, you get zero points. If you are five to 10 mile an hour over the speed limit, you get two points.
And then if you are 10 plus over the speed limit, you get four points. That does have a weighting of 40%.
And then traffic volume,
we looked at the ADTs
of the that is the average daily traffic volume,
for the neighborhoods.
Basically, if you are over 500
cars per day but less than a thousand, you get two points.
And if you are over a thousand cars per day, you get four points. That did have a 30% weight.
And I will just note real quick that the speeding and traffic volume,
we looked at that through the streetlight data, that we purchased and that it was
citywide.
We do not have we're we're not able to go out and measure in each
neighborhood yet, but, that'll be part of the pilot program.
And then, as far as the sidewalks,
if you had substantial
completion on one side, you got zero points.
If you
have a partial sidewalk on one side, you got two points. And then, if you have no sidewalk, you got four points.
And then we did look at amenities.
So if the neighborhood was within half a mile of a school, park, or shopping area,
you got one point for each of those, so you could get up to three points for that.
And then the last factor, we did look at, the poverty rate. So you got 1% if the poverty rate of a neighborhood was between 1020%,
and then you got two points if it was over 20.
And if you look at the graphic here on the right, the darker neighborhoods, those are the ones that have the higher points. And it and we'll get into a little bit more here on the next slide.
So when you spit,
put in all the numbers and do all of the calculations,
these are the top 11 neighborhoods throughout the entire city,
with the weighted scores.
It is pretty evenly distributed throughout the city. We've got four on the East Side, four kinda on the West, Northwest, and then three in the middle.
And, these 11 neighborhoods are what we are proposing to be as part of our pilot program,
that we will get into next.
So as part of the pilot program, we kinda wanna do, like, a three step,
three step program.
Step one, we wanna go collect data,
in these 11 neighborhoods.
Like I said, we most of the data we've used up to this point is streetlight data. We actually wanna go get, you know, real hard data,
using our normal data collection devices.
And then once we collect that data,
we will
identify the temporary features and locations that we wanna place
the the features at. I will say so this is just kind of a sample of, you know, the this next step or part of phase one.
You know, we'll identify the main roads within the neighborhoods.
And then once we collect the data, we'll be able to,
you know, kinda map out the speeds and and even the traffic,
and really look at the hot spots along the particular roads and see where we really need to focus on,
on putting the devices.
So step two is actually the temporary installation.
We will go and install the temporary devices in the neighborhoods, and then we will do additional data collection,
just to evaluate, see how it's working, see if it's working as intended, see if we need to make spacing adjustments on anything,
or add additional features.
That'll be, like, thirty to sixty days,
once it's installed.
And then in step three,
once we collect that data, we will evaluate it and then make a determination
whether we,
either need to make additional adjustments,
install additional features, or look at actually installing permanent features at that time.
So that's kind of the overview of the
pilot program.
Kind of the next steps in our our request,
you know, for tonight,
really looking for approval on the traffic calming matrix.
And then,
you know, the pilot program to look at the 11 neighborhoods that, we just went through.
We are requesting $400,000
as part of the twenty twenty six budget,
for the temporary devices, and that includes
temporary devices, additional,
data collection,
speed feedback signs, just a a variety of things.
And then, we're also requesting a traffic analyst position.
It is a $102,000.
That'll be part of the budget request as well for this year for 2026.
And then we do have a a pretty robust public outreach campaign.
Didn't see anybody from communications here tonight, but,
I know we've we've already purchased some kind of giveaways and stuff that'll be distributed out at,
the youth day parade. And and then,
we've got a plan kinda coming up to reach out to schools and really start with elementary schools,
and elementary kids and whatnot over the next,
let's say, three to six months.
And then we'll touch base. So on phase two,
we are looking at developing a traffic calming matrix for the entire city,
and and this is looking at roads that are not within the subdivision.
So phase one is primarily looking at neighborhoods
and subdivisions.
Phase two would be looking at, you know, the roads pretty much 30,
mainly 35
and below. We'd probably be looking
at 35 and up to see if there's anything we could do. We just can't do vertical deflection
on roads between thirty five and forty five. And this is what we would basically be looking at everything not on a a state route, for that as well.
And then phase three,
you know, we do wanna evaluate
our existing sidewalk matrix,
but we also want to look at,
you know, one thing our our current sidewalk matrix does not take into account is it does not look at any local roads,
throughout the city,
particularly with subdivisions and neighborhoods.
And,
we want to develop
a probably separate sidewalk matrix just for that,
because, obviously, sidewalks and neighborhoods would definitely help in some of these neighborhoods that have higher higher volumes and higher speeds,
and maybe an opportunity to narrow the roadway as well, which will also help in decreasing speeds. So, that'd be part of phase three, and we'll be looking at that, just kinda using in house forces,
next year.
So like I said, it's the staff's recommendation,
for tonight is to,
consider and approve the neighborhood traffic calming matrix.
And then not asking you to approve these budget requests yet, but just consider these budget requests, that had been submitted for 2026
as the budget
comes up for review over the next couple of weeks.
And with that, we'll
open up for any questions.
Thank you, Mr. Nicholas. Any questions? Council member Hall.
Thank you. And I know this,
council member, Johnson has worked very, very hard on it. Good job. I know that this has been something that you've spent a lot of time on, and we appreciate it.
Couple of questions.
So the first 11, this is I understand it's sort of a beta
program.
Once we get through the beta program, will you drop down to the next set of,
neighborhoods?
Yeah. So I think I think the goal would probably be for us to circle back with you all sometime
second, third quarter next year,
to see, you know,
how how are we doing? You know, where are we at?
Has this worked? Has it not worked?
If it's worked,
you know
you know, obviously, we would need more money to do additional things. But, yeah, it the goal would be to kinda start looking at that next year.
You know, and, obviously, with t plus three kind of on the horizon, we'd be looking at,
you know, really trying to build out more beyond that
Mhmm. Beyond these 11. And then if a neighbor if a neighborhood,
wanted to opt out, could they opt out of this program?
We do not have an opt out. Mhmm. Oh, that's no. That's No. The the answer to that is no. Yeah. This is this is about public roads, public safety,
quality of life slowing down Roswell.
So this is not an opt in, opt out program.
And so I you took your,
the data says today
that these 11 neighborhoods have basically
the worst amounts
of speeding
plus 10
miles per hour over the speed limit, the most amount of cars.
You could add the other two factors, the other three factors, but the big two kinda stick out here. Yeah. Obviously, they most don't have sidewalks.
This is about public safety.
It's about slowing down, making our neighborhood safer for families,
for everybody in our community.
So it's not I can't opt out. I can't say, well, you know what? I don't wanna be part of this program. This is a 100%
hey. If you're in Brookfield,
my neighborhood,
which, by the way,
David could show you some of the data on this is crazy. You wouldn't believe how many cars, like, on the on, like, I can tell you selflessly on my street, it's 3,500 cars a day
on a neighborhood road
well in excess of over 10 miles per hour. I don't want that in anybody's neighborhood in city Roswell. That to me is not a great quality of life for anybody.
It's also about you can see there's phase in there. So you can see David and Greg got another part. It was like, hey. There's a plan to put
sidewalks
in neighborhoods.
Why is that important?
Because we think it makes quality of life better.
It raises it makes it safer for people to interact in their community,
and,
we think it's an investment in the community that will pay huge dividends,
not only just in terms of residential values. I think it'll pay huge dividends to the quality of life, but this is a pilot program.
So he's picked 11. He's picked 11 based upon data.
He's gonna do data, and he's gonna come back and say, here's what we've discovered.
We made some assumptions.
We were right about this. We were wrong about this,
and this is what we want this is what we wanna do go forward.
And if it if the data comes in like we think it's gonna come in, you're probably gonna say, hey. We got more problems than we thought we did. Right? We got more cars, higher volumes of speed. What do you wanna do about it, counsel? It's It's probably what's gonna come and say, look. Is this serious enough that you wanna do something about it? We got a plan to do that. And you can see there's three phases. This is phase one, pilot program.
Great question, though, Christine. Because I think a lot of times, we have some great programs in the city where
neighborhoods cannot opt in and opt out.
This ain't one of them.
Council member Johnson.
Well, obviously,
I won't be sitting in this seat if it wasn't for and it's it happened in my neighborhood two years ago, and this is why I'm here.
So I wanna thank
Greg Mark for incredible work.
You know, Caitlin as well who
basically was the, you know, person who came up with this matrix
in order to discount what y'all have done, but, you know, just an incredible Caitlin did a lot of work. Yeah. And you're an incredible employee
with a,
a very slow system that did it for her. Not anything on our end. It's just the software is very slow and lots of hours to work on that.
Customer to your point about opting out, we looked at a lot of different policies across the country and then across the state, like, Macon, Savannah.
And, I've actually made some phone calls to some of the,
people in those cities about their opt out program, and basically neighborhoods don't opt out.
Right? Because you want this. A large majority of the neighborhoods
do not want cars. There's, you know, 3,200,
3,500 in front of your neighborhood.
Steeplechase
in Horseshoe Bend is one of the worst roads.
I I don't remember the exact traffic count, but I think the eighty fifth percentile of speed is close to 50 miles an hour on a 35.
You know, my neighborhood is 40 miles an hour, 15 miles an hour with 1,500 cars a day. And so you think about 15% of the cars are going faster than 40 miles an hour. That's about a car every 10 going 40 miles an hour in front of my house where my kids play, where moms walk with their,
you know, up with strollers, where people walk their dogs. And so this is absolutely about improving
the quality of life for our residents. But back to what we talked about with the police and fire, our number one job is to protect our residents,
and this is protecting them. David, investment in quality of life is an investment in economic economic development, economic strategy. First thing is you gotta get safety right. And I will tell you,
talk about listening.
In my
three and a half years of doing this,
this the thing that I hear regular people come up and ask me about the most,
the most, not even close,
I get I get I get
I get what people bring up to me is traffic and speeding
speeding and traffic, particularly in their neighborhood. I hear that. That's what I've heard. Now I have not built a data collection,
but from my standpoint of listening as a public servant, the thing that I've heard the most,
I don't hear that the dias.
But when I hear people come up to me and says, hey. You need gotta do something about you gotta do something about speeding. You gotta do something about speeding in my neighborhood. I hear that all the time, and not just in my neighborhood. I hear when I go around.
So
for me, it's like paying attention to what I think the vast majority of the people of Roswell really want.
Council member Moreland.
So we're talking about these 11 neighborhoods
and during our pre meetings around this, we were we were discussing the neighborhoods that aren't on this 11 list.
Those those neighborhoods, I mean, they still have a seat at the table with with Department of Transportation here at the City Of Roswell.
Any anything that still stands,
authorized from the city still stands for those neighborhoods to
voluntarily do things,
traffic calming. If they if they wanna put something together, put something forward, the city is gonna stand with them, stand behind them. We're not turning a blind eye to any other neighborhood. This is just where we're prioritizing
this pilot program.
Correct. Yeah. If they if they still wanna initiate something, especially if it's small or, you know, whatever in its neighborhood, if it's led by them, then,
we won't stop them.
If they are requesting,
you know, something extensive, like, more like this, then, you know, they're gonna have to get in line. But, you know, our focus is on these 11, but we aren't gonna stop them if they do wanna if they request anything small.
Any more questions for mister Nicholas?
Seeing none. I'll entertain a motion
motion by council member Johnson,
second by council member more planned.
Any further discussion?
Seeing none. All in favor
Passes unanimously.
Thank you very much.
This concludes the committees of council. Entertain a motion to adjournment. Councilman Mason, second by council member Johnson. All in favor?
Unanimous meeting is adjourned. Well done, Jeremy. Thank you. Have a good evening.