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Game, Fish, and Parks Committee Meeting

VIDEO Game, Fish, and Parks Committee Jan 28, 2026 at 12:00 AM Processed: Jan 29, 2026 at 11:49 AM

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Duration: 49 minutes

Speakers: 13

01:45
Speaker 1

Have people coming in and out, so we're gonna go and get started here today. But before we get going, I wanna ask, representative Ridley if you'll open us with a word of prayer. What number are you?

01:54
Speaker 3

Let me see. Alright. Thank you. Heavenly father, we come to you today and thank you for another day on this earth. And, we hope that you will build a hedge around us, protect us, keep us safe. We'd expect the best decisions that we can for the state.

02:09
Speaker 3

And, Lord, most of all, we ask you to forgive us for all our sins and the ones that we're about to commit. Amen.

02:18
Speaker 1

Amen.

02:20
Speaker 1

Good cowboys.

02:22
Speaker 1

Good good gracious.

02:24
Speaker 1

Good gracious.

02:26
Speaker 1

Alright. But before we get going, I wanna take this time as our first our kickoff meeting for the year to to recognize a few,

02:32
Speaker 1

new faces we've got with us this year. First off,

02:34
Speaker 1

we've got two new interns in our office, Victor Avilla and Owen Hawkins in the back of the room. They're helping us out this year and just wanna say a big thank you to them.

02:43
Speaker 1

Our analyst, our our full time analyst is is Kevin Daniels, but we've got miss Anna Smith filling in today and I'm gonna tell him that we'll we'll just take you.

02:52
Speaker 1

Okay. No. I'm just kidding. He was busy today and our new,

02:57
Speaker 1

legal counsel is miss miss Kristen Harapal in the corner. We just wanna say thank you,

03:02
Speaker 1

for everything y'all do for us.

03:04
Speaker 1

Alright. We're gonna have our DNR,

03:06
Speaker 1

update today. We had a lot of great things going on the past year, but we've got,

03:11
Speaker 1

representative Rob Clifton here and he's got some big events coming up in the next, few weeks. So we're gonna try to get him,

03:18
Speaker 1

help him get his bill moved along before he may be sidetracked a little bit. So,

03:24
Speaker 1

at this time, I wanna recognize representative Clifton

03:27
Speaker 1

to, present your bill.

03:33
Speaker 1

If you wanna tell the crowd what you got going on, go ahead.

03:44
Speaker 1

I said, hold on.

03:47
Speaker 1

It it says it's on.

03:55
Speaker 4

It's not working.

03:58
Speaker 5

Light

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Speaker 5

on.

04:00
Speaker 6

Oh. Oh, there you go. I wanna turn it back down. There we go. I don't need to dispute. I'll try it again. There you go. Well, thank you, mister chairman.

04:07
Speaker 6

As I was saying,

04:09
Speaker 6

my wife is due with our third child here in the next couple of weeks. So I'm hoping to move very quickly in the early part of the session, get all my stuff done. And then that way, when I get back, we're ready to keep moving forward. So I appreciate you letting me present this bill. Yes, sir.

04:22
Speaker 6

So this is house bill nine forty six,

04:25
Speaker 6

six, l c four four three two seven nine.

04:29
Speaker 6

This bill,

04:31
Speaker 6

essentially allows

04:32
Speaker 6

drones to be used

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Speaker 6

in the locating of feral hogs.

04:38
Speaker 6

The

04:39
Speaker 6

latest bill came about, I had a constituent reach out to me asking if they could use drones. We have a for those who don't know, we have a very bad, hog problem, that is not going away. It will it's only intensifying.

04:52
Speaker 6

And so in the hope of being able

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Speaker 6

to make this less of a problem,

04:57
Speaker 6

they asked if they could use drones,

04:59
Speaker 6

to locate where they might be.

05:02
Speaker 6

I reached out to DNR and at one point we thought it might not be a problem. And after researching the code, it absolutely could not be done the way it is written now. So this bill, essentially

05:12
Speaker 6

just allows,

05:14
Speaker 6

hogs to be, hunted from an unmanned

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Speaker 6

aircraft system,

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Speaker 6

such terms as code as defining code six one four,

05:23
Speaker 6

again, to locate feral hogs and subjects,

05:25
Speaker 6

laws and applications

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Speaker 6

from unmanned aircraft vehicle.

05:29
Speaker 6

So that's the just gives a little makes it easier to hunt, locate, hunt, and,

05:35
Speaker 6

kill feral hogs.

05:37
Speaker 1

Okay. Thank you, sir. See if you have any question, I know all of us are well aware of the destruction that hogs due to not only our our hunting land, but also,

05:47
Speaker 1

terrible for our farmers and and loss of income and crops.

05:51
Speaker 1

We do have a few questions.

05:53
Speaker 1

Number 11.

05:55
Speaker 4

The chairman court. Thank you, mister chairman. Thank you for for bringing for bringing this bill. This doesn't affect any way if you people that that hung them out of a helicopter. That's not a that doesn't affect that in any way. No, sir. This is just and and I should have added to this is just for private property. So if you're going on WMAs or other people's,

06:13
Speaker 6

federal or state property trying to locate,

06:15
Speaker 6

with drones, you are in the wrong, and you're gonna get in the same trouble you would have anyways. So this is just for private use on private properties. One other comment, miss mister chairman, if I can. Yes, sir.

06:26
Speaker 4

Our our previous chairman of this committee, Tom McCall, I mean, he has and talking about feral hogs. He said he didn't we can shoot him with anything from a BB gun to bazooka. And I've I I don't have any problem with adding this to it.

06:38
Speaker 1

I feel good.

06:41
Speaker 5

Question number two. Who is number two? Thank you Mister chairman I and I want to say to I guess you have with the-

06:47
Speaker 5

a long with my question was I guess. You said it just only on that person's property but- only but- he cannot contact the- adjacent person

06:57
Speaker 5

say, property that says, you know, you got some feral hogs. Can can I come over there and and and annihilate them?

07:04
Speaker 6

I I would say

07:05
Speaker 6

yeah. If he it it's really more from a personal a private property standpoint.

07:10
Speaker 6

There's a lot of WMAs in the state of Georgia that you can go on and hunt publicly,

07:15
Speaker 6

for multiple different, species depending on the hunting season.

07:19
Speaker 6

If you you this bill or currently, you cannot, and this bill does still does not allow you to use drones on public property.

07:27
Speaker 6

But if you're on your land and your neighbor, I don't see any issue at all with, calling saying, hey. I was flying around, saw some hogs if you wanna go get them.

07:35
Speaker 6

Really, this is truly

07:38
Speaker 6

making it easier for people to locate feral hogs with the hopes again of decreasing the population.

07:43
Speaker 1

Thank you, mister chairman. Thank you. Yes, sir. Number 14, chairman of Hooten. Yeah. Thanks, mister chairman. Just curious. What's prohibiting,

07:52
Speaker 8

land owners from doing this now?

07:54
Speaker 6

So currently in the law, the part that we are striking out,

07:59
Speaker 6

which is rose about '23 through '32,

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Speaker 6

gives a lot of,

08:05
Speaker 6

stipulations on how you can hunt these. We're basically taking

08:09
Speaker 6

this out and allowing you to hunt

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Speaker 6

them however you can get them.

08:14
Speaker 6

I'll add one more since we are on record.

08:17
Speaker 6

And please tell me if I'm wrong. I believe hogs can start having litters about the age of two,

08:22
Speaker 6

and they have somewhere between two and three litters a year

08:26
Speaker 6

at the tune of about 12,

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Speaker 6

piglets per litter. So once they are on your property,

08:34
Speaker 6

it's hard to get rid of them and and they cause a lot of destruction.

08:38
Speaker 8

Yeah. Yeah. Very destructive. Thank you. We need to get a pig breed.

08:42
Speaker 1

Quite number one. Is that

08:44
Speaker 7

representative Dunnehy? Yes, sir. Mister chairman. Yeah. Let me ask you a question and why you guys the experts here. I don't ever assume, but I think it would be if my property

08:55
Speaker 7

and I have permission from my neighbor to hunt his property

08:59
Speaker 7

and written permission is what we used to do.

09:02
Speaker 7

I think you're still covered with that. Is that true? If you don't have written permission, basically, you could be trespassing.

09:09
Speaker 7

And that was one thing I would clarify. Let me ask you because South Georgia is a little bit different.

09:15
Speaker 7

I have Lake Lanier as my main body of water. I'm not gonna go hunting out of my boat or anything like that.

09:21
Speaker 7

But when it's you're reading this, if I was in a John boat on a farm pond, it's okay to hunt out of that boat

09:29
Speaker 7

for shooting pig or whatever. Okay. And I'm what I figured that I want to make sure

09:34
Speaker 7

Lakeland here that would be off limits in your main core lakes. That's that's basically just want to clarify to make sure I was close to right. Thank you. Hey, sir.

09:45
Speaker 1

Are there any other,

09:47
Speaker 1

questions?

09:50
Speaker 2

Chairman, will you? Yeah. I had the proper time, mister chairman. I'd like Now's the time. That we we move this bill on. Now's the time. I'd like, motion we move this bill out. Seconded.

10:01
Speaker 1

I hear I hear a motion. I have a hear a second. Is there any other discussion?

10:07
Speaker 1

All in favor, say aye.

10:09
Speaker 1

Aye. Any opposed?

10:11
Speaker 6

Move on. Thanks, sir. Thank you very much. Hogs

10:18
Speaker 1

are a problem, and I appreciate you.

10:20
Speaker 1

Yes, sir.

10:22
Speaker 1

Alright. Now I'm about to turn the, meeting over to

10:26
Speaker 1

commissioner Raven. We've had a a a very good year with, DNR, and he has done a tremendous job.

10:32
Speaker 1

I am biased, but, we've got

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Speaker 1

the the best commissioner and the best DNR staff in

10:39
Speaker 1

in in in the country. And I'm very proud of them, and I'm very proud of what they do. And they do a great job because they have so many different categories and things that they have to do. And,

10:50
Speaker 1

from the the winter storm response that he they just had to be involved in and and just proud of them all the way down from the mountains to the Coast. Y'all do a tremendous job and I just want to say thank you. And,

11:02
Speaker 10

we just want to hear what you got for us, buddy. Thank you. Thank you, mister chairman. I appreciate those comments. And we do have the best team in state government. Very proud of each and every one of them.

11:13
Speaker 10

It's a pleasure to be before all of you today. I'm on,

11:17
Speaker 10

go ahead and apologize. Y'all drew the short straw. We've got a pretty big event coming up this weekend.

11:24
Speaker 10

And then a lot of our divisions are still tied in with winter storm fern. So instead of bringing the whole team up and letting them present to you, which you would have enjoyed much more, I'm gonna do this high level overview

11:38
Speaker 10

of our agency and then tell you about some of the high high points

11:42
Speaker 10

and some of the cool initiatives that we have going on.

11:45
Speaker 10

Most of you are very aware

11:48
Speaker 10

that we DNR is comprised of five different divisions.

11:53
Speaker 10

I will get into four of those divisions

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Speaker 10

again. You know, the Environmental Protection Division

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Speaker 10

is run by Director Cam

12:01
Speaker 10

and is also a governor appointee.

12:04
Speaker 10

And I'm sure he'd be happy to come talk with you anytime you would need some EPD,

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Speaker 10

guidance.

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Speaker 10

But let me let me start talking to you a little bit about DNR as an overview.

12:16
Speaker 10

Our FY twenty six budget as an agency was $355,000,000

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Speaker 10

Of that $3.55,

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Speaker 10

only 181,000,000

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Speaker 10

of those dollars are state dollars.

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Speaker 10

The rest are,

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Speaker 10

federal funds

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Speaker 10

and other funds that we collect throughout the year. We have about 2,700

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Speaker 10

employees

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Speaker 10

in DNR, and that would include

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Speaker 10

EPD.

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Speaker 10

But if you'll look, I'm gonna roll right in. And I know we've got some time constrictions this afternoon.

12:48
Speaker 10

So I'm gonna hit the very high points. This PowerPoint can be given to all of you. Just make that request and we'll get that to you. But our coastal resources division, which we do have our director with us, Doug Hamans, many of you know Doug and work with him day in and day out.

13:05
Speaker 10

But it's based out of Brunswick.

13:08
Speaker 10

That division is made up of two sections, our marine two sections, our marine fisheries and our coastal management sections.

13:16
Speaker 10

And, again, this is very high level. There is a lot about 75 people down there that work for Doug and do some very complex

13:26
Speaker 10

things day in and day out. But

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Speaker 10

to to dumb it down where I can speak to you in layman's terms, our marine fishery section

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Speaker 10

provides the information that pretty much manages all of those coastal fisheries.

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Speaker 10

And that's the saltwater populations,

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Speaker 10

and that includes our commercial and our recreational,

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Speaker 10

fishing opportunities that are along the coast. And again, I'm putting that very simple. It's it's much more complex than that. I think Doug would agree. And then our coastal management section

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Speaker 10

works with our local, state, and federal authorities

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Speaker 10

to balance the economic development that has taken place and the population growth that has taken place in those 11 coastal counties that you see outlined up there.

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Speaker 10

But this this section is pretty much charged with protecting

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Speaker 10

our coastal, natural, historic and recreational resources. So a lot of permitting that goes on within that section. Again, they do a great job

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Speaker 10

for our 105 miles of coastline that you see up there, as well as our 14 barrier islands.

14:31
Speaker 10

Moving on to our law enforcement division.

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Speaker 10

Today we stand at about 200 game wardens statewide.

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Speaker 10

Many of you are very familiar with the roles that they play in the hunting, fishing, boating,

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Speaker 10

enforcement that takes place in our state.

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Speaker 10

Our game wardens are post certified just like any other law enforcement officer in the state of Georgia.

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Speaker 10

They are, federally

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Speaker 10

deputized to operate and enforce federal laws as well.

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Speaker 10

We kind of call them

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Speaker 10

the Swiss army knife of law enforcement. We are pretty much the only law enforcement,

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Speaker 10

agency

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Speaker 10

that gets off the pavement. When the when the dirt roads in, we're the ones that that get called for that.

15:17
Speaker 10

But not only off the pavement, as you know, governor Kemp has tasked us to be a part of the crime suppression units

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Speaker 10

that are still working here within the perimeter,

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Speaker 10

in Atlanta.

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Speaker 10

So you talk about some uncomfortable people. You ask a game warden to come up here inside Metro Atlanta and they're looking for a way to get out, but they do a great job while they're here. And we're proud to be a part of that task force as well.

15:43
Speaker 10

We do currently have a,

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Speaker 10

cadet

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Speaker 10

class going on

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Speaker 10

the fortieth Game Warden Academy.

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Speaker 10

And it The graduation is scheduled for April 17. So we would love to have you in attendance for that graduation.

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Speaker 10

If you want to go ahead and put that on your calendars.

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Speaker 10

Next, our State Parks and Historic Sites Division.

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Speaker 10

As you know, not only managing

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Speaker 10

some of the

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Speaker 10

state's most unique cultural

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Speaker 10

resources that we have

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Speaker 10

in our state, but also some of the most

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Speaker 10

beautiful places in the state of Georgia

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Speaker 10

fall within the 60 plus properties that they manage.

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Speaker 10

Some cool stats for our parks division. 13,000,000

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Speaker 10

visitors last

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Speaker 10

year. Last fiscal year, we hosted 13,000,000

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Speaker 10

visitors.

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Speaker 10

That had an economic impact to our state of over $1,700,000,000

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Speaker 10

So we have,

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Speaker 10

a very robust,

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Speaker 10

inventory of properties in our state parks. We're very proud of those. You can see see them listed up there on the screen.

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Speaker 10

But such a great job of customer service.

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Speaker 10

I would encourage you as you travel around the Southeast particularly, but but anywhere in the nation,

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Speaker 10

visit some of those other state park systems and then compare that to what we offer in Georgia. And I think you'll be like me. You'll be very, very proud of what we offer, not only to our citizens of Georgia, but to those that visit that

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Speaker 10

system as well.

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Speaker 10

Our wildlife resources division, I did ask Chris Harper to come up.

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Speaker 10

Chris, raise your hands so they can see.

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Speaker 10

So Chris is,

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Speaker 10

about two months in to, new director position as our wildlife resources division director.

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Speaker 10

He's got an extensive fisheries background, and he is quickly drinking from a fire hose, learning about all the other things that our wildlife resources division does as well.

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Speaker 10

But super proud to have Chris on. He is a great asset to our team and I think all of you will look forward to working with him in the future.

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Speaker 10

Our wildlife resources division is comprised of four different sections. We have our game management section, our fisheries management section,

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Speaker 10

our wildlife conservation

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Speaker 10

section, and our communication,

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Speaker 10

education, and outreach section.

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Speaker 10

We manage

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Speaker 10

in in the game management section over a million acres in Georgia through our wildlife management area system that we have. You see there are 133

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Speaker 10

wildlife management areas. Again,

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Speaker 10

public opportunity for people to get out and enjoy what we are blessed to have in our state.

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Speaker 10

Our fisheries management section, along with managing all of the state fisheries, they run

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Speaker 10

10 hatcheries in our state and produce over 11,000,000

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Speaker 10

fish annually

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Speaker 10

for our anglers to enjoy.

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Speaker 10

Not only that, I think you saw maybe the first slide, we've got 16,000,

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Speaker 10

miles of streams in our state.

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Speaker 10

Over 500,000

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Speaker 10

acres of impounded

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Speaker 10

reservoirs in our state. So, again, just a huge undertaking with what that fisheries management section manages day in and day out.

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Speaker 10

Our wildlife conservation

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Speaker 10

section,

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Speaker 10

pretty much all the things that we hunt and fish for, they manage everything else, which comprises of about

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Speaker 10

95%

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Speaker 10

of the species

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Speaker 10

in our state. So

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Speaker 10

again, a huge undertaking and that's not just, you know, animal species, bird species. That also includes plant species and those habitats

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Speaker 10

where we get to house a lot of threatened and endangered plants and animals as well.

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Speaker 10

And then lastly, the the newest

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Speaker 10

constructed section within the wildlife resources division is the communication,

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Speaker 10

education, outreach section.

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Speaker 10

They work to support the other three sections and getting that messaging out. One thing that we realized is we do a great job

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Speaker 10

at managing the resources.

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Speaker 10

In the past, we have not, or we could have done a better job of getting the message out of what we're doing. So they they are doing a great job of getting the message out of not only what takes place within

20:04
Speaker 10

WRD,

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Speaker 10

but the, the whole agency,

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Speaker 10

in their messaging. So great, great teamwork

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Speaker 10

that takes place within those divisions.

20:16
Speaker 10

With that, I had just a few updates of some things that, that are of interest and fresh off the press, winter storm, FERN.

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Speaker 10

We we have been preparing for FERN since about last Monday or Tuesday.

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Speaker 10

We had

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Speaker 10

the first time that we've ever kind of locked arms with the Georgia Forestry Commission and the Department of Agriculture

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Speaker 10

for a unified command for our response to a weather event.

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Speaker 10

It was housed in Macon and the teamwork. And you can imagine when I call out those sister agencies,

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Speaker 10

you know their leadership and you know how well that the team members, the ones actually out in the field,

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Speaker 10

melded together very quickly.

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Speaker 10

From our side of it in in the unified command, we had over 200 personnel

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Speaker 10

that were out there working for this weather event.

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Speaker 10

Many of those 200 are still out there as we're standing here speaking today.

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Speaker 10

They were out there yesterday with chainsaws

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Speaker 10

and dragging limbs in single digit temperatures.

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Speaker 10

So again, the men and women of DNR have truly stepped up for this. In addition to the boots on the ground and the chainsaws on the trees,

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Speaker 10

DNR and EPD

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Speaker 10

also played a role at GEMA,

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Speaker 10

in the overall

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Speaker 10

response from the state operation center

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Speaker 10

and supported,

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Speaker 10

many of the emergency support functions that took place there. We currently still have

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Speaker 10

four parks that are closed because of trees down in those parks. We have three golf courses that are still closed.

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Speaker 10

But I I'm in great hopes and would anticipate

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Speaker 10

in the next day or two, getting those parks back open and getting those up and running.

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Speaker 10

We had a lot of cancellations

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Speaker 10

because of this weather event that came in and just the canceled

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Speaker 10

reservations.

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Speaker 10

We're probably

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Speaker 10

at a loss of about $250,000

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Speaker 10

just from cancellations, not to mention the damage that has occurred to our park. So,

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Speaker 10

I don't know where you were sitting with Fern. Some depends on where your house was. Some were very bad and some were like, I didn't know there was a weather event.

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Speaker 10

But in Northeast Georgia, everyone would agree there was a major weather event.

22:31
Speaker 10

I know each of you have heard from me about

22:35
Speaker 10

outdoors beyond barriers.

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Speaker 10

We, we refer to it as OBB.

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Speaker 10

And the goal of OBB is simply what the bullet says that they're making the outdoors accessible for all. And that's one of the,

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Speaker 10

driving strategies that we have within the department.

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Speaker 10

And we found out that we weren't doing a very good job for our disabled populations.

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Speaker 10

And then this is how OBB was born.

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Speaker 10

Very proud of the work that's been done.

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Speaker 10

This past year,

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Speaker 10

we hosted 20 adaptive hunting events.

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Speaker 10

And we had over 140

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Speaker 10

hunters that participated in those events.

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Speaker 10

We had 14 adapted fishing events.

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Speaker 10

We've had a couple of dove shoots that have taken place.

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Speaker 10

We've had and have more,

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Speaker 10

shooting events that's going to take place that are strictly geared for those with mobility impairments.

23:31
Speaker 10

And, it is so cool. I know a couple of you have been out to a few of those events, but if you truly want a blessing, come out and

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Speaker 10

see some smiles on some faces

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Speaker 10

that hadn't really got to get outdoors or in the woods in a long, long time, if ever. So it's very, very cool. Not only on the hunting and fishing side of OBB. Again, this is a department initiative,

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Speaker 10

in our state parks. We've hosted mobility impaired hiking events

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Speaker 10

around our state. We currently have

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Speaker 10

17,

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Speaker 10

action track chairs where an individual can get in this chair. And it's it's in that picture on the right side of the screen. It is like a mini tank.

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Speaker 10

And those individuals too get to go out and enjoy

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Speaker 10

the woods, the water,

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Speaker 10

bird watching, and that kind of thing as well. So very proud of that. We have,

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Speaker 10

four grit chairs. We've got

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Speaker 10

some glasses that we've added to our inventory that would allow those that are color blind to see the colors of the leaves in the fall.

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Speaker 10

So again,

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Speaker 10

you know, we've got kayak launches for those that are mobility,

24:40
Speaker 10

challenged.

24:41
Speaker 10

And then we have some adaptive

24:44
Speaker 10

golf

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Speaker 10

opportunities

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Speaker 10

as well at some of our golf courses. So a great initiative, very proud of the team

24:51
Speaker 10

and all that they have created

24:54
Speaker 10

with a brand new initiative

24:56
Speaker 10

that,

24:57
Speaker 10

honestly, two years ago, you know, it's not even a thought.

25:03
Speaker 10

Some of you

25:04
Speaker 10

I've spoke with and you may have got a few phone calls.

25:08
Speaker 10

We did January 1. Our park pass,

25:11
Speaker 10

went up

25:12
Speaker 10

from $5

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Speaker 10

from when it was established to $5 in 2009.

25:18
Speaker 10

It went to $10 this year. And if you look at the

25:22
Speaker 10

inflation rate during that time period, you would know

25:25
Speaker 10

that we certainly had not kept up with it. And the $10 still doesn't bring us up to where inflation says

25:32
Speaker 10

our park pass fee should be.

25:35
Speaker 10

But let me stress to you the importance of this park pass fee to us.

25:39
Speaker 10

And that's certainly, you know, just the gate fee.

25:44
Speaker 10

All of those revenues, that's the only dedicated funding in our state that comes back directly

25:49
Speaker 10

to Georgia State Parks.

25:51
Speaker 10

Every dollar of that goes back into

25:54
Speaker 10

maintaining

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Speaker 10

all of those properties that I spoke of earlier.

25:58
Speaker 10

So it's been huge for us.

26:01
Speaker 10

Again, I'm sure if you've got a park in your district, you've probably heard of this.

26:07
Speaker 10

The

26:07
Speaker 10

the comments that we're getting now is it's about time. Why didn't we do this sooner? So, it's been

26:14
Speaker 10

pretty successful.

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Speaker 10

Although, you know, we're less than a month into it. But, the people that enjoy our state parks don't mind paying an additional $5

26:25
Speaker 10

to get to those properties.

26:30
Speaker 10

And then I know

26:32
Speaker 10

you are familiar with House Bill five zero one from 2019.

26:37
Speaker 10

This, established and supported

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Speaker 10

what I call oyster farming or oyster mariculture

26:43
Speaker 10

industry that we now have in our state.

26:48
Speaker 10

Since the implementation,

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Speaker 10

we have three mariculture

26:52
Speaker 10

zones that have been designated.

26:55
Speaker 10

Chatham County, McIntosh

26:56
Speaker 10

County, and then most recently

27:02
Speaker 10

currently we have nine

27:04
Speaker 10

contracted harvesters.

27:06
Speaker 10

Four of those are actually producing,

27:09
Speaker 10

oysters today.

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Speaker 10

I still haven't tasted one. Look forward to that maybe this weekend.

27:15
Speaker 10

We have two

27:17
Speaker 10

of those nine that are currently

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Speaker 10

staging or deploying their gear into their leases.

27:23
Speaker 10

And then we have three pending permits that Doug and his team are working through so that they too can get gear in the water. It's gonna be a great

27:32
Speaker 10

economic impact for our state. As most of you know, a lot of our

27:37
Speaker 10

single farmed oysters come from Apalachicola

27:39
Speaker 10

or they come from Virginia.

27:41
Speaker 10

We've got

27:43
Speaker 10

the place to do it here in our state. And I'm glad that our state has decided to capitalize

27:48
Speaker 10

on this great natural resources that we have.

27:53
Speaker 10

With that, we've also moved within the last year towards a summer harvest.

27:58
Speaker 10

And we're currently updating that. But this past summer,

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Speaker 10

these growers of these farm oysters were able to harvest their oysters,

28:09
Speaker 10

in the mornings

28:10
Speaker 10

and get those to a cooler in a specified

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Speaker 10

amount of time. I think it was

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Speaker 10

two hours, and now we're moving that to 10AM.

28:19
Speaker 10

So that, that gives them a little more flexibility

28:22
Speaker 10

in harvesting their oysters.

28:25
Speaker 10

But,

28:26
Speaker 10

again and then the the clam and the wild oyster harvest continues. This is not

28:31
Speaker 10

in competition with either of those fisheries as well on our coast.

28:36
Speaker 10

Another hot

28:38
Speaker 10

button topic that I know I've heard from almost every single one of you on is the red snapper. Not to be confused with the redfish.

28:47
Speaker 10

But the red snapper, as you know, currently,

28:50
Speaker 10

is managed by the federal government.

28:56
Speaker 10

This past year how many years, Doug, have we had a one day season?

29:00
Speaker 6

Since 2009.

29:02
Speaker 10

Since 2009,

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Speaker 10

we've had a one day season. And I know many of you that like to fish for red snapper probably go to The Gulf because they have an extended season.

29:13
Speaker 10

We currently have a bill

29:15
Speaker 10

now that's that's working to help us gather data.

29:18
Speaker 10

Carryover bill from last year,

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Speaker 10

House Bill four forty three and Senate Bill four twenty. So when you see those come across your desk,

29:27
Speaker 10

please support those bills. But

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Speaker 10

basically what we have done, we partnered with Florida, South Carolina and North Carolina to apply for a red snapper exempted fishing permit.

29:39
Speaker 10

And that would be issued by NOAA.

29:42
Speaker 10

Governor Kemp also

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Speaker 10

wrote a letter to the secretary of commerce

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Speaker 10

encouraging them to let Georgia manage that saltwater species.

29:54
Speaker 10

We've had numerous public meetings, have

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Speaker 10

received,

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Speaker 10

lots of favorable comment

30:00
Speaker 10

in giving us the the ability to manage that species.

30:05
Speaker 10

If we receive that exempted fishing permit, what we are looking at doing is a sixty two day red snapper season that would run through July and August with a one fish limit each day.

30:19
Speaker 10

The key to that and the important part of the bills that you'll you'll be seeing this session is it does have mandatory

30:26
Speaker 10

harvest reporting.

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Speaker 10

We want to be as accurate as we possibly can with the data that we collect and the data that we then

30:35
Speaker 10

forward to the federal the the feds.

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Speaker 10

So

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Speaker 10

through a mobile phone app with Yamaha, Right Waters playing a key role in developing this platform.

30:47
Speaker 10

We we look forward to getting this exempt to permit and we should hear something

30:52
Speaker 10

by

30:54
Speaker 10

May. May.

31:00
Speaker 10

Yep. Another

31:01
Speaker 10

topic of Well, before I get to the other topic of great concern, this is not of great concern. This is all

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Speaker 10

good news. Partnering with the Georgia Wildlife Federation.

31:13
Speaker 10

You'll remember that we had $500,000

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Speaker 10

that was, put in our budget to help with hunters for the hungry, and it has helped exponentially.

31:23
Speaker 10

We now have this program in 52 counties of our 159.

31:27
Speaker 10

And we have 56

31:29
Speaker 10

participating,

31:30
Speaker 10

deer coolers, meat processors.

31:34
Speaker 10

Thus far, we have 108

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Speaker 10

food banks across our state that we have we, and I say we because I am a hunter, but hunters have contributed to,

31:44
Speaker 10

which has amounted to 120,000

31:47
Speaker 10

pounds of venison.

31:49
Speaker 10

Now I would say even our chairman doesn't have that much venison in his freezer, and we know it's full.

31:56
Speaker 10

No. Our don't close.

31:58
Speaker 10

Our goal is 140,000

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Speaker 10

pounds, and we feel like that we will meet that goal

32:04
Speaker 10

for the year with the monies that you appropriated

32:06
Speaker 10

for us through the extended bow season.

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Speaker 10

That's still got a few days left in it, as well as through our crop damage permits

32:15
Speaker 10

and use and participate in processors in that.

32:19
Speaker 10

Chronic waste and disease.

32:21
Speaker 10

I can look around and some of you are directly impacted by this.

32:26
Speaker 10

You'll remember I came to you last year

32:29
Speaker 10

and updated you of the first case that we had in our state.

32:34
Speaker 10

And then you were kind enough to give us $250,000

32:37
Speaker 10

to allow us to manage this disease.

32:41
Speaker 10

Since

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Speaker 10

I last updated

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Speaker 10

this committee on CWD, we now have 10

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Speaker 10

confirmed cases in our state.

32:49
Speaker 10

Those cases are still in Lowndes, Berrien, Lanier, and Atkinson County.

32:55
Speaker 10

And while that sounds like a huge geographic area, if you drew a straight line, they're all within about 20 miles of each other.

33:02
Speaker 10

And when I say Lowndes County, there's not been a confirmed case in Lowndes. But when we have a what we call a CWD zone, we draw a five mile circle around where that deer was harvested.

33:14
Speaker 10

And that county becomes part of our management zone. So that's that's how the Northeast Corner of Lowndes County,

33:21
Speaker 10

fell into that five mile radius.

33:25
Speaker 10

Again,

33:26
Speaker 10

the monies you gave us helped us with our sampling sites. It's helped us to put out,

33:32
Speaker 10

78

33:33
Speaker 10

cooler sites for people to leave their deer heads for us so that we can do the testing.

33:39
Speaker 10

Chris, I don't know if you know right off the top of your head, how many tests we've done throughout deer season?

33:45
Speaker 10

Thousand,

33:47
Speaker 10

At least a thousand?

33:49
Speaker 10

Over 3,000. Let's go with that. Sounds better. Over 3,000 samples. Let me say there's been a lot of samples that's been taken throughout this deer season.

33:58
Speaker 10

And to say that we only have 10 confirmed cases at this date and time,

34:05
Speaker 10

you know, will we have more? The answer is yes. Will it go away?

34:09
Speaker 10

The answer is no. But I want you to know that,

34:13
Speaker 10

you know, Chris, his team, our biologists, our game wardens

34:16
Speaker 10

are actively

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Speaker 10

retrieving samples day in and day out.

34:19
Speaker 10

And, we will continue to monitor and manage the disease to try to keep it from spreading to other parts of our state.

34:30
Speaker 10

And that's the last slide. I I thought I had a few more to go, but thank you, mister chairman. I'm more than happy to answer any questions. Well, thank you, mister commissioner.

34:40
Speaker 1

Commissioner.

34:41
Speaker 1

And that was, a very well done update, and I appreciate the info. And I I just wanna stress to the committee, when y'all have questions and concerns and

34:48
Speaker 1

you can't get me or can't y'all need to call commissioner, call the office. They are great at giving you the direct answers you need that your constituents are,

34:57
Speaker 1

or,

34:58
Speaker 1

howling about or fussing about or needing to get. And, you know, I just want y'all to remember that

35:03
Speaker 1

that

35:04
Speaker 1

the department does a great job of working with other agencies. Like

35:08
Speaker 1

he mentioned the last couple years, we we partnered with Department of Ag.

35:13
Speaker 1

Our farmers were really complaining

35:15
Speaker 1

about our our deer herd eating and damaging their crops and eating up their profits. And the program that we came up with in a joint effort was

35:23
Speaker 1

y'all we had 12 people participating

35:26
Speaker 1

in that,

35:28
Speaker 1

12 processors in the in the hunters for the hungry, and now we've got 56.

35:32
Speaker 1

That was a direct result

35:34
Speaker 1

of of the effort that we put together the last year. And I hope we continue to grow that

35:39
Speaker 1

because, you know, as we all know, you if you can

35:42
Speaker 1

shoot a doe and go drop it off, you're a lot more likely to take two or three more and trim your herd out than you are if you have to go home and and clean it yourself and do all that. So that's the whole point in premise

35:54
Speaker 1

behind. That program and I just want to thank you for that seems to be working really well.

35:58
Speaker 1

Alright you've got a few questions we're gonna go- chairman Lehut.

36:02
Speaker 8

Yeah thank you Mr chairman great presentation appreciate all you do and your team to steward the state's resources.

36:10
Speaker 8

This is timely that I get to ask this because I just was asked by a constituent yesterday. We have a lot of avid, you know, duck hunters, bird hunters back in my district back home.

36:20
Speaker 8

And the question was around the dates of duck season.

36:25
Speaker 8

I understand that's a duck from migratory birds

36:28
Speaker 8

in

36:29
Speaker 8

in the federal regulations,

36:30
Speaker 8

you know, dictate a lot of this, but, how much discretion

36:34
Speaker 8

does your department have in in setting the dates?

36:37
Speaker 8

And and the question was centered around, you know,

36:40
Speaker 8

a lot of years, it seemed like it's later in the season when it's pushing the the birds down this, you know, Far South and South Georgia. So can we can we get it, back to

36:51
Speaker 8

January 31,

36:54
Speaker 8

last day of the season?

36:56
Speaker 8

Is that under consideration?

36:58
Speaker 10

So

36:59
Speaker 10

I'm a huge proponent of we should have the season when the ducks are here, unfortunately. That's hard to plan for a year or two in advance.

37:09
Speaker 10

Now currently, the way the way our seasons are set up for migratory birds,

37:13
Speaker 10

the feds, US Fish and Wildlife give us gives us a window

37:18
Speaker 10

of dates

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Speaker 10

and for us, Chris and his team, to construct

37:22
Speaker 10

our season.

37:24
Speaker 10

And

37:25
Speaker 10

when when we get that window of dates and if you know those right off, Chris, I'd be willing to throw those out there. I'd remember I told you he's a fish guy. He's a fish guy, but I'll get you those dates.

37:37
Speaker 10

That that window of dates. And then within those dates, they give us sixty days that we can have,

37:42
Speaker 10

water foul season.

37:44
Speaker 10

So with that, we know that, you know,

37:46
Speaker 10

Thanksgiving is always a traditional time for for people to get together and hunt ducks. Is that the best time for the migration that's going on? Probably not. That's one of those social sciences that we take into account with that.

38:00
Speaker 10

But I can tell you that we do maximize

38:03
Speaker 10

the time and push it as far back as we can.

38:06
Speaker 10

We'll get those dates to you, but,

38:09
Speaker 10

no, we we can't push it back any further than that window of dates.

38:15
Speaker 8

Is that window the same every year? It is. Okay. It is. Alright. We appreciate it. And I know there's no way to predict, you know, when when those migratory birds will be coming through. But,

38:26
Speaker 8

the the constituent,

38:29
Speaker 8

his his,

38:30
Speaker 8

I guess, ask was can we

38:32
Speaker 8

move it to the end of that date range the feds give give us?

38:36
Speaker 10

We we we will look at that. If there is any wiggle room, we can certainly look at the migration patterns and dates and see if what we can do. Alright. Like, to make it as late as possible. Yes, sir.

38:49
Speaker 1

Thanks, sir. Representative Williams?

38:51
Speaker 11

Thank you, mister chairman.

38:53
Speaker 11

And thank you, commissioner.

38:57
Speaker 11

I've seen a lot of commissioners. Got to work with a lot. I'm the longest serving person by a lot on this committee.

39:04
Speaker 11

I've been on this committee for twenty three years.

39:07
Speaker 11

Alright. And I've seen most of them. You do an excellent job.

39:11
Speaker 11

Appreciate what you're doing, certainly,

39:14
Speaker 11

you know, through the follow through and everything. We appreciate what you did down at, Sapelo.

39:19
Speaker 11

Very tragic situation that you got out in front of.

39:23
Speaker 11

I would like to ask that at your convenience, I'd like to discuss

39:28
Speaker 11

some releases

39:29
Speaker 11

that are in effect that we have down on the coast. Okay. Certainly like to talk to you about that. We can do that offline. But thank you and your team

39:39
Speaker 11

and especially Doug. You know, I'm a little partial to the coastal district, so had to give him a little shout out. But thank you so much for what all

39:48
Speaker 11

all your team does. Thank you, sir.

39:51
Speaker 1

Thank you.

39:52
Speaker 1

Representative McClain?

39:54
Speaker 5

Thank you, mister chairman. I will say thank you to miss mister for all all y'all do because,

39:59
Speaker 5

I'm just glad that,

40:01
Speaker 5

that you are going for $10, but, you know, I do still have some of those fixed income communities

40:07
Speaker 5

and old folks, and they'd be saying to you. And I said, hey. Come on.

40:12
Speaker 5

But at least you got them off of the fishing license because because at first, they were complaining about the fishing. And now it's kinda like, okay. It was so I like you coming back each and every year with something different. No. Just kidding. But I do wanna say thank you too, but I know I heard you say that we lost you lost about 250,000,

40:30
Speaker 5

300,000

40:31
Speaker 5

with Fern. Yes, sir.

40:33
Speaker 5

Do you you you need you got that or you we got a reason I'm saying it because I was just tell talking about two things, and I didn't want

40:40
Speaker 10

the the fee to go up, and I don't want the license fee to go up either. So No. Yes. I would tell you that we're we're gonna make it up. If you're on any of the social medias, you will see that our parks division is pushing out

40:53
Speaker 10

all kind of deals about the parks that we do have open. So we're trying to get those people that canceled those reservations to come back

41:01
Speaker 10

at another time or go to another property so that we can make up those funds.

41:06
Speaker 10

And they do a great job of marketing what we offer.

41:09
Speaker 10

But, no. We hope to make those funds back up.

41:13
Speaker 5

Thank you. I just I just put those two items out there that, you know, just leave my fishing license alone at all. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes, sir.

41:22
Speaker 1

Thank

41:24
Speaker 7

you, mister chairman.

41:26
Speaker 7

I would like the coordinates is to where you're dumping all the, reefs and everything. So if I could get that would be great.

41:34
Speaker 7

But seriously, thank you. Thank you very much for what you do. And, you know, we had a debacle here on Memorial Day with the Corps of Engineers

41:43
Speaker 7

and

41:44
Speaker 7

Brent Cox and I spent about thirty six hours mobile different places we called. And a gentleman right back here, Thomas, I appreciate when I reached out to you.

41:55
Speaker 7

I told a lot of people we had a plan here. Means you guys did, and not everybody understood that.

42:01
Speaker 7

We had people that were upset. I probably had three or 400 calls that day, text and emails, because I used to fish pretty seriously.

42:09
Speaker 7

All the fishing industry was getting into it. And when I told them that, they were like, you're kidding me. I said, Georgia, we have a great DNR. We have a great group of guys that's gonna get it done. And we wanna keep bragging on you all that because you need to be lifted up for doing what's right.

42:24
Speaker 7

Now we still are having a little bit of problem here and there. It looks like a lot of us are gonna, like Lanier, start taking over certain ramps. Hopefully, we've done a few.

42:32
Speaker 7

But,

42:34
Speaker 7

I just wanna compliment you again. And if I ever need you, I hope we'll do that again because that assured a lot of people that were very ill

42:42
Speaker 10

that something was gonna be done. And, you know, thank you. No. That was a a long weekend. Yes. It was. Yes. Holiday weekend. But and as you know, we have met with the corps. They've been great partners Right. For decades

42:55
Speaker 10

now back when Moe Thrash was a little boy. Yes. He left. Robert e Lee. Yeah. Yeah. But,

43:01
Speaker 10

no. It it they're they're a great partner, and we have carried on those conversations, not just that weekend, but we have ongoing conversations with them now. Thank you very much.

43:12
Speaker 12

Thank you, representative Huddleston. Thank you, mister chairman, for allowing me to be a part of community today. Thank you, commissioner, and all your team members for what you do for the state and and,

43:22
Speaker 12

the opportunities that we have.

43:24
Speaker 12

In my district, I have West Point Management Area that has a shooting range. And I believe you had up there on your one of your slides, there was 46 shooting ranges within the state. I've had some ask within my area.

43:35
Speaker 12

Just educate me on, are there usually full time range supervisors at those, or do we just depend upon the, natural resource officers of opening and closing? And is it due to funding

43:46
Speaker 12

that may be keeping from having the full time,

43:49
Speaker 12

safety officers there? I think that was a yes. Yes. No. Yes.

43:55
Speaker 10

Okay. So if you did No. We we do. We we do have a number of shooting ranges, and we have a lot of partners that we partner with to you on a number of other shooting ranges across the state.

44:07
Speaker 10

We do maintain

44:08
Speaker 10

some type of supervision

44:11
Speaker 10

at all of our ranges,

44:12
Speaker 10

some of our partners. And I speak of, like, national forest, The US National Forest.

44:19
Speaker 10

Some of those ranges may not be manned, you know, the whole time that they're open.

44:25
Speaker 10

So we may have some oversight there, but there may not be an individual there. I do think West Point is one that we we do maintain

44:32
Speaker 10

full time staff there.

44:34
Speaker 2

Thank you.

44:37
Speaker 1

Thank you.

44:39
Speaker 1

I think that wraps wraps up the questions. I but I had one.

44:43
Speaker 1

Just

44:44
Speaker 13

I'm sorry. Why that's not Okay. You go go ahead. I'm sorry. I apologize.

44:50
Speaker 13

Thank you very much for this information. I am from Cherokee County,

44:54
Speaker 13

and we have a overload of deer population coming into our neighborhoods.

45:00
Speaker 13

There is not a day that I drive out of my neighborhood that I don't see probably 20 or 30 deer 30 deer just eating away, having a grand time. Are we doing anything about, the population

45:09
Speaker 13

in Cherokee County, which is around Lake Allatoon, of course? And my second question is the corps closed

45:16
Speaker 13

some

45:17
Speaker 13

parks around,

45:18
Speaker 13

Lake Altoona in Cherokee County. And do you know if those will be opened again at some point, please? So so on the deer first,

45:28
Speaker 10

we we do encourage we have again, bow season is still going on in those metro counties.

45:34
Speaker 10

So we encourage, we like for our hunters to help us maintain those populations.

45:40
Speaker 10

We are just dipping our toe in the water with our OBB initiative and marrying that in some of the metro communities

45:47
Speaker 10

where there are lots of deer, lots of opportunities to harvest. And then when that harvest takes place, it saves your rose bushes and all your other shrubs as well. So we're working towards that, but we we do have an urban,

46:00
Speaker 10

wildlife program

46:02
Speaker 10

within our wildlife resources division.

46:05
Speaker 10

They are

46:06
Speaker 10

day in and day out in those homeowners,

46:09
Speaker 10

homeowner associations,

46:11
Speaker 10

educating

46:12
Speaker 10

the best ways to help manage those deer populations.

46:16
Speaker 10

And then

46:17
Speaker 10

the the core question on Altoona,

46:20
Speaker 10

a few of their ramps were

46:23
Speaker 10

kinda lumped in with what representative Donahue was talking about earlier.

46:27
Speaker 10

Again, we're in conversations

46:30
Speaker 10

with the corps on how to keep those open, how we can work as partners

46:34
Speaker 10

so that those opportunities don't go away for our boaters and anglers.

46:38
Speaker 13

Thank you.

46:40
Speaker 1

Thank you.

46:42
Speaker 1

The question I was gonna ask is,

46:44
Speaker 1

I know last year we had we had made great strides. I think we only had seven or nine counties that did not have a game warden. And you mentioned our new academy. How's that looking now?

46:56
Speaker 10

Still a challenge,

46:58
Speaker 10

the recruitment

46:59
Speaker 10

and retention

47:00
Speaker 10

of our law enforcement officers, not just law enforcement officers, but particularly our law enforcement officers.

47:06
Speaker 10

We have a number. I don't know what that number is. We probably have not whittled that number down from what we gave you last year.

47:14
Speaker 10

Normal attrition, we've had a few that have retired throughout the year. We've had a few that thought they were going to greener pastures.

47:21
Speaker 10

Every now and then, some of them wanna come back to our pasture, which is good too.

47:26
Speaker 10

But, no, it's an ongoing battle in the profession of law enforcement

47:30
Speaker 10

in getting, you know, young people interested in coming in and enforcing the law.

47:35
Speaker 10

But

47:36
Speaker 10

so far, we're we're meeting the demands,

47:39
Speaker 10

with what we can withhold with our budget

47:41
Speaker 10

and with our available positions that we have. So,

47:45
Speaker 1

we're in a in a good place with that number. I might have been looking at my phone. How many people do we have in the academy, did you say? What did I say? 23? 23. 23. Okay.

47:55
Speaker 10

Good. Thank you. And then our the window on our dates and it closed, but it did

47:59
Speaker 10

and

48:00
Speaker 10

he chairman left.

48:02
Speaker 10

It does go to the January. So we'll look at shifting those dates. I think it went out January 20. Twenty fifth, I think, was the

48:09
Speaker 1

wasn't that the last day?

48:12
Speaker 10

So we're it's the here here's the windows. So we have a early teal window that allows us to construct dates

48:20
Speaker 10

from September 1 through the thirtieth.

48:22
Speaker 10

And then for regular ducks, the Saturday nearest to September 24

48:28
Speaker 10

through January

48:30
Speaker 10

31. And then I was correct with the sixty days in there. So we'll Chris is certainly taking notes,

48:37
Speaker 10

and, we'll go back to our team and see if we can push it back till the end of the month.

48:43
Speaker 1

K. That'd be great.

48:45
Speaker 4

Well, I sure thank you. I don't wanna have my,

48:49
Speaker 1

screen blinking anymore. Does anybody

48:51
Speaker 1

else have any thoughts or questions or discussion?

48:56
Speaker 10

Yes. Doug Doug's probably already sent. Thank you, mister chairman. Thank this is a great committee. Again, I hope all of you have my number.

49:05
Speaker 10

And if you don't have mine, somebody on the team, but it will

49:08
Speaker 1

gladly give that to you. Don't hesitate to call. Love working with your committee. Well, thank you so much, and thank you to the staff and the guys,

49:17
Speaker 1

and gals that that do everything,

49:19
Speaker 1

with commissioner. Thank you all. We're adjourned.

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